Reclaiming our Family Honor!
Reclaiming and regaining our family honor…that was stolen from us!
Taking back what Joan M Wheeler stole from our family!
ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः ॐ
om shanti shanti shanti om
Update November 2014
The purpose of this blog is about exposing all the wrongs that Joan Wheeler has done to me and my family and telling the truth of myself and my family.
It would be wise to look at the ABOUT page to get updates that I have removed from this front page. It bears repeating…the sole purpose of this blog is about the behavior of Joan Wheeler.
Our commentary and reporting is our business.
The lying, hate filled book, called Forbidden Family, by Joan Wheeler is now dead. We told the truth and the publisher pulled the book because of its libelous contents. Joan Wheeler refuses to remove all of her blogs with that title and her hate words towards us.
This blog is to help reclaim OUR Family away from Joan Wheeler…she is the Forbidden One…she was NOT conceived in 1954, when this family picture was taken and can not claim this picture. She was adopted out of the family and when ‘reunited’ turned her hate and anger against us.
But…the ignorant can’t hide from everyone who sees ‘who’s behind the curtain’, the ignorant use techniques of refusal to ‘hear’ the other side and outright intimidation.
You can fool some people some of the time, but you can’t fool all the people all of the time!
So I note, on Tweeter, that Joan Wheeler published an ‘article’ (as WordPress’s automation calls a ‘post’)
I follow Joan’s blog, called Forbidden Family, so I also got a notice of this ‘article’.
The post consists of some ‘self-serving’ propaganda BS, that ‘looks’ good, says all the ‘right’ things that adoptees WANT to hear so they can continue to pat themselves on the back that they GOT IT!
The problem is the ‘message’ is all wrong! Totally, and of course, they, the adoptees, don’t want to hear that the message is wrong!
A few hours later I see on my Tweeter…
From a scientific standpoint adoption is morally wrong http://wp.me/p3Sgq4-8M
I follow the link and find that ‘discovering mary’ reblogged Joan’s post.
and here is what is posted (both on Joan’s and Discovering Mary)…
And so I leave a message, on ‘discovering mary’, which doesn’t get posted…of course. These people don’t want to hear, let alone publish anyone who pointedly tells them they are wrong.
Gertmcqueen Your comment is awaiting moderation.
November 10, 2014 at 5:27 pm
I understand that some may think they understand this, but, it is flawed and written to provoke peoples’ base level of understanding.
NOTHING is morally RIGHT or WRONG…it’s all about perceptions/beliefs. Its like ‘one person’s junk is another person’s treasure’. There is NO one morality. To think as such is what makes any FUNDAMENTALIST believe they can IMPOSE their morality on EVERYONE.
Morality can NOT be legislated…NO law can be made and enforced on an issue of morality. It’s all individual and personal.
Science as well has NO position on MORALITY…science is only interested in observable FACTS not judgments of right or wrong.
Who ever wrote this statement is just trying to pull everyone’s legs and get a reaction, and at that a wrong reaction. (end of my comment that never got/will get posted.)
But there’s MORE…
Someone on Joan’s Facebook posts a disagreement statement who is IMMEDITATELY attacked by a friend of Joan….
M… I don’t agree with this. I realize this is a metaphor, but schizophrenia is real, and it’s no more common among adoptees than natural children. So it’s a misuse of “schizophrenia”, and a hysterical one at that. It is possible for adoptive parents (of many species, not just human) – to love and cherish their children, just as it is possible for natural ones to hate and abuse them.
D…Schizophrenia is a disorder that causes you to experience delusions. They are using the word metaphorically here. You do know what a metaphor is, right?
D… Also, what is so loving about taking a child away from a parent who hasn’t been proven unfit (and I mean really unfit, like “an immediate danger to the child” unfit) and never letting that child know their extended biological family at all? Changing their name? Faking their documentation? I’m sure adopters are *fond* of the children they raise, as often as not, but I think we need to take a good hard look at what the word “love” actually means. I don’t think GIMME GIMME GIMME IT’S MINE is *anywhere* in that definition. And… Sorry for the PostyMcPostPost… “Hysterical” is a sexist word, thought I’d mention.
M…..D: I happen to be adopted, and I agree that we need to take a look at the word “love”. My point is that natural parents may not love their children and adoptive ones may. As for “do I know what a metaphor is”, there’s no need to be snarky, especially since you did not read my post carefully. I SAID I realized the poster was using the word metaphorically. Finally, I am using the word “hysterical” metaphorically (you know what a metaphor is, right?), not in it’s literal Greek meaning concerning the womb.
M…One more thing: there’s no such thing as “scientific” proof or anything being “morally wrong”.
End of Facebook ‘point-counter-point’
These people who are utterly against the institution of adoption are just plain IGNORANT and quite dangerous!
for some reason wordpress has a different publish date on this post, I must have hit the wrong publish date?
Originally posted on Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor:
There’s an old saying…there are NO atheists in foxholes and on the death bed!
I don’t know if that’s true or not but…
what I think isn’t important for I am at peace with my life and I’m prepared, as much as I can be, for that last rest!
Joan’s time on the battlefield, and in the foxholes, of adoption reform, hasn’t given her any comfort, peace, joy, honors or reform. It’s just been more years of anger and fighting against her self-created enemies; adoption and anyone who advocates for adoption and a life filled with torment and pain and aloneness. I don’t see her getting much attention from many in the reform movement. I do see that Joan has ‘battle fatigue’ but she’s just not ready to hang them boots up. She doesn’t even seem to know that she LOOKS worn-out and sick!
She, like all of us, will eventually…
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because it is NATIONAL ADOPTION MONTH I’m reblogging this post
Originally posted on Refuting a Book of Lies: Forbidden Family --:
By Gert McQueen, written April 22, 2010
‘Three things cannot be hidden, the sun, the moon and the truth.’…Buddha
Chapter 15, as Joan is ‘preparing for Liverpool’, to see our sister who lives there, she tells us about meeting our father at work. I’ve addressed this in another post, but for accuracy sake and setting the record straight again, she misrepresents our father’s work situation. He was not a machinist, didn’t work in south Buffalo, at this time, 1976, he worked at the City Hall of Buffalo NY as a civil engineer and part-time at Sears as a sales representative. Our father’s natural way of discussing things is in a straightforward way and yes at times he can be abrupt. I am also that way, as I believe Ruth is. Joan does not understand straightforwardness or abrupt ways of talking that leaves no opportunity for argument. She only knows a…
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Joan just published this INCORRECT information on her blog
after she saw yesterday my post of the real truth…
Joan can continue lying and I shall continue telling the truth.
updated info…I left a comment on the site that Joan left wrong info. They originally posted my comment and then after a couple of hours, they deleted my comment.
this is what I said on nov 1 http://www.firstmotherforum.com/2014/10/who-serves-adoptees-best-interests.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+firstmotherforum%2FilVc+%28Birth+Mother%2C+First+Mother+Forum%29&utm_content=FeedBurner
I am in agreement that adoptees need medical information…true medical information, misinformation does not help anyone. When wrong information is said about my mother I must, in all good conscious to her, answer that wrong. I did on this post…
I relate to adoption issues because of wrong information told about our family. Also I adopted my birth son with my second husband.
So the upshot of this is…the POLITICAL agenda of adoption reform DOESNOT want to have the truth, from family members who have been misused by ADOPTEES.
I now present the two different versions of Joan’s telling of the same misinformation…
Posted on Forbidden Family web site
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2009 @ 2:09 AM
Last Modified: 13 Apr 2012 @ 06:28 PM Posted By: legitimatebastard
When my adoptive parents “got” me, they were told that my natural mother died of uterine cancer. Believing this, my adoptive mother worried that I might be susceptible to the same cancer. As a preventative measure, from as early as my teen years, I was seen by a gynecologist and had pap-tests every six months.
When I was 18 and found by siblings I never knew, my natural father, on our very first meeting, gave me a certified copy of my deceased mother’s death certificate. Six months later, I was a Freshman in college. I went to the college library and looked up the terms in a medical dictionary. My natural mother did not die from uterine cancer, as I was told by my adoptive parents, and they were told by my natural father, she died of kidney cancer. So I had had repeated pap-tests and had been worried about the wrong medical condition.
It is vitally important that adoptive parents are given a correct medical history for the infant they adopt, especially in the case of the death of one or both natural parents. In fact, a detailed medical history going back another generation is very helpful.
Here is a scanned image of my natural mother’s death certificate as given to me by my natural father in March 1974. Note the words: carcinamatosis hypernephroma, which means cancer of the kidney.
THEN ON THIS SITE SHE SAYS SOMETHING DIFFERENT
When my adoptive parents “got me” in 1956, my natural father told them that my mother died less than a month previously from uterine cancer. Because of this, as a teenager, I had twice yearly PAP tests, looking for uterine cancer. I was reunited with my father and siblings and extended family (natural mother’s family) in 1974. No one talked about health issues. They were too busy comparing me to the others as to who I looked like, who I sounded like. Meanwhile, my father handed me my mother’s death certificate. Cause of death: cancer of the kidney. My grieving father had given the wrong cause of death to my adoptive parents (I do not blame him in any way – he had just lost his wife of ten years and the mother of their five children). They, in turn, gave me the wrong information. I, in turn, had been tested for the wrong medical problem. In college in the 70s, I developed very frequent bladder and kidney infections. I asked my gynecologist if it was possible that these were indications of cancer. That is why we petitioned the hospital for my mother’s records, and mine, at my birth and during the three months prior to her death. To my relief, no, my bladder and kidney problems were due to stress and not inherited tendency to cancer. My full blood siblings, however, drilled it into me that I “did not have my facts straight”. They told me off, saying that Mom died of cancer of the uterus and that I was lying. Apparently, our grieving father had told them that our mother died of uterine cancer. Apparently he had never given them our mother’s death certificate. Additionally, the judge who presided over my adoption never bothered to ask my father for my mother’s death certificate. This was in 1956, a time when society believed that babies were “blank slates”. Environment meant more than biology. My father was not required to fill out medical history forms during the months before my adoption became final. Nothing was mentioned about his medical history, nor of his parents, cousins, aunts and uncles. My father was not required to provide any medical history of his deceased wife’s family. My father finally told me in 2003 what his parents died of a few years after he relinquished me. His father had gangrene in his leg. His mother died of colon cancer. Health care is vital. We adoptees need to know the truth.
Adoptees want the truth of their medical histories…but when they listen to Joan Wheeler, they get different lying versions and REFUSE to hear the birth family’s truth.
an important message…I wrote this BEFORE I had my own blog…and it’s message is always very important
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