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Reclaiming our Family Honor!

Reclaiming and regaining our family honor…that was stolen from us!

Taking back what Joan M Wheeler stole from our family!

ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः ॐ
om shanti shanti shanti om

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UPDATE OCTOBER 2016

I’m updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler (Doris Michol Sippel) says about me and family. The first book ‘Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism‘ was pulled from publication by the publisher in May 2011. Then in 2015, she ‘self-published’ a ‘revised’ version calling it ‘Forbidden Family, an adoptee duped by adoption’. This woman has no shame no sense of family honor! Then in 2016 Joan changed her name back to her birth name and rewrote and republished the SAME crap in another book; a Third edition! CALLED ‘Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity’! Talk about conning people!

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

this blog’s title/sub title is… DUPED BY ADOPTION & AN WOMAN’S STRUGGLE FOR IDENTITY, A BOOK STUDY an in-depth analyzes of the books called Forbidden Family; My Life as an Adoptee Duped by adoption & An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity by Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoptionStruggleforIdentity1/

UPDATE Sept 2015 my new blog…

Duped by adoption, a book study An in-depth analyzes of the book Forbidden Family My Life as an Adoptee Duped by Adoption.

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

and a new Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoption1

THE FOLLOWING LINK IS IMPORTANT TO SEE JUST HOW SNEAKING AND DANGEROUS JOAN IS…

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/it-boggles-the-mindjoan-wheeler-hates-her-blood-family-yet-uses-the-dead-members-of-the-birth-family-and-another-dead-person-to-hide-behind-and-attack-the-living-birth-members/

UPDATE July 2015 added an LinkedIn account with a post

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/heres-what-i-am-all-gert-mcqueen

UPDATE March 2015 this post sums up the TRUE story of our family versus the ‘point of view’ of Joan Wheeler.

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2015/03/02/joanwheeler-has-a-new-business-is-asking-for-submissions-heres-mine-flipthescript/

Update November 2014

The purpose of this blog is about exposing all the wrongs that Joan Wheeler has done to me and my family and telling the truth of myself and my family.

It would be wise to look at the ABOUT page to get updates that I have removed from this front page. It bears repeating…the sole purpose of this blog is about the behavior of Joan Wheeler.

Our commentary and reporting is our business.

The lying, hate filled book, called Forbidden Family, by Joan Wheeler is now dead. We told the truth and the publisher pulled the book because of its libelous contents. Joan Wheeler refuses to remove all of her blogs with that title and her hate words towards us.

This blog is to help reclaim OUR Family away from Joan Wheeler…she is the Forbidden One…she was NOT conceived in 1954, when this family picture was taken and can not claim this picture. She was adopted out of the family and when ‘reunited’ turned her hate and anger against us.

Yep, the worst thing Joan Wheeler ever did was to publish that lying book. Now she will have to live with that dead book tied around her neck until we set everything in it straight and right and it starts to stink and rot OR she decides to make it right and remove ALL references to Forbidden Family on her two web sites and apology to us siblings and our parents!
Warning…the contents of this blog are not suitable for young impressible minds or for people who believe everything Joan Wheeler has said or written. Believe her at your own risk! She is a user of people!
see joint post of Gert and Ruth
update of February 2014…Joan has still NOT answered any of our charges against her…in fact when asked directly she runs and hides away, or screams that we are harassing her…so we shall continue on until she answers to the dirty deeds and words she has said and deeds she has done. Joan still has NOT removed her hate blogs against us or gotten her friends to get rid of theirs, so we shall just carry on. Everything Joan and her friends have done to the birth family are part of the historical record.
 NEW COMMENTS JAN 3, 2016

HI there! I had the unfortunate experience of reading Joan Wheeler’s book (it was free on Kindle and in my interest area). I’m adopted, and have recently extricated myself from a disastrous reunion forced on me by my birth family. All that said…Joan Wheeler is a self-pitying narcissist. I feel bad for you and your family. You reached out to her in what seems to be hope and love only to have the door repeatedly slammed on your hand…then she blames you for ruining her door jam! Her writing in this book is wheedling and ‘oh they don’t make me the center of my universe so I’ll make them!’ in tone. You and your family are in my prayers that she either wises up or just stops out of boredom.

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  • Jan 3, 2016…I’m replying to the about comment of same date

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us who are named in that latest garbage book of Joan M Wheeler. Glad to know that you didn’t have to pay $$ for it! I did pay for the Kindle but for the printed edition, with discounts, I paid .76 cents…yes seventy-six cents! This book, just like the first one, will never be any kind of ‘best-seller’ for she is speaking to a very small ‘crowd’ that think like herself. There are many out there, like yourself who ‘see’ behind what she writes.

    I’m glad that you KNOW about narcissistic behaviors for they can cause tremendous difficulties for anyone who gets ‘close’ to them. I’d encourage everyone to learn more about those types of behaviors for self-protection. Unfortunately, Joan will never ‘wise up’ nor ‘stop’ for any reason, because she is a narcissistic that NEEDS constant attention and she hates adoption.

    Sorry to hear that you have had a ‘disastrous reunion’; reunions are NOT easy for anyone and when they go horribly wrong, no one wins. Keep in mind that generally all families can be ‘messy’, doesn’t matter whether one is adopted or not, and if you can maintain proper boundaries, those messes won’t get too bad. Your life is your life, live it as you see fit to live it!

    Thank you for keeping us in your prayers, as we will you.

     

    I made a new blog post on my “REFUTING A BOOK OF LIES: FORBIDDEN FAMILY BY JOAN M. WHEELER by Joan M. Wheeler – exposing her lies”
    https://ruthsippelpace.wordpress.com/2016/01/03/2016-a-new-year-and-im-back-to-blog-about-joan-mary-wheelers-lies-in-her-forbidden-family-trashbook/

     

Adoption stories in modern novels; #adoption is everywhere, whether you like it or not, Joan M Wheeler or Doris or whatever you call yourself.

Memoirs are just ‘constructions’ of one’s life and not necessarily THE truth! Joan/Doris continues to CONSTRUCT her ‘true’ life story (more on that at the end of this post).

First here is a book review…of sorts

The Storied Life of A.J. Fikry  By Gabrielle Zevin

Generally not my choice to read, it was chosen by a book club. While the jacket stuff sounded interesting and even intriguing, on the whole the story is too light weight, full of contemporary references and views that do not interest me. I wondered whom the ‘audience’ was that the author was trying to reach. While it is true that in many stories there are ‘twists’ that are not anticipated. The twists in this story somehow missed their marks.

Much of the writing and ‘ideas’ seem too contrived (invented or fabricated) going back and forth from juvenile to more a mature thinking; for example, the use of real author’s books with a commentary by the fictional character as chapter headings. But this, interjection of other books and authors, did not override the lightness, cuteness or other attempts to make this a ‘feel-good’ book when there were certain tragedies in the entire. It left me wondering…what’s the point…that the author was trying to get across?

What really got me, into the story and kept me reading, was a possible REAL life circumstance of a young child being left at the book store with only a desperate note from the child’s mother…please take care of her. Then the next day that mother is found dead, a suicide. Initially A. J. Fikry does what any person would do, take custody and care of child until the ‘authorities’ can get there, in 3 days’ time, to take the child into foster care and eventually into adoption.

This is where LOVE comes into to play. Fikry not only falls in love with the child but sees where he can help both his and the child’s lives, for the better. He chooses adoption! And of course, presto, the social worker and the system immediately, without question, grant the child to him! It is presented in a warm, loving, caring feel-good way that does NOT represent the reality of such a situation and circumstances!

Regardless of my opinions of the writing and story lines, this book does give an example of real life circumstances where ADOPTION may be the only option.

This book also brings out an example of how memoirs are just ‘constructions’ of one’s life and not necessarily THE truth.

^^^^ end of my thoughts on this book^^^^

Much of Joan/Doris’s writing is like this book; full of juvenile thoughts, fabrications, trying to fit too many characters and circumstances around HER theme, that adoption did her wrong and is wrong. I write BETTER, DEEPER blog posts that all the BOOKS and rants that Joan/Doris writes!

Here are links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler (Doris Michol Sippel) says about me and family. The first book ‘Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism‘ published in 2009, was pulled from publication by the publisher in May 2011 due to libelous material in it. Then in 2015, she ‘self-published’ a ‘revised’ version calling it ‘Forbidden Family, an adoptee duped by adoption’, being her own editor and owner. This woman has no shame no sense of family honor! Then in 2016 Joan changed her name back to her birth name and reedited and republished the SAME crap in another book; a Third edition! CALLED ‘Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity’! Talk about conning people!

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

this blog’s title/sub title is… DUPED BY ADOPTION & AN WOMAN’S STRUGGLE FOR IDENTITY, A BOOK STUDY an in-depth analyzes of the books called Forbidden Family; My Life as an Adoptee Duped by adoption & An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity by Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoptionStruggleforIdentity1/

 

 

 

Joan M Wheeler (Doris M Sippel) says she’s “the most hated anti-adoption adoptee in America”; wow talk about delusions of grandeur!

Okay this is an old rant of Joan’s (2010) but it serves to show her narcissistic nasty behavior and as such is important to bring out, for ingrain behaviors never change.

To be clear…here are facts that needs to be known before we move on.

I, Gert, expose the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler (Doris Michol Sippel) says about me and family. The first book ‘Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism’ was published in November 2009 but was pulled from publication by the publisher in May 2011, due to libelous material within the book. Then in 2015, she ‘self-published’ a ‘revised’ version calling it ‘Forbidden Family, an adoptee duped by adoption’. This woman has no shame no sense of family honor! Then in 2016 Joan changed her name back to her birth name and reedited and republished the SAME crap in another book; a Third edition! CALLED ‘Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity’! Talk about conning people!

Here are the links to my second blog and a Facebook page dedicated to these ‘books’.

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

this blog’s title/sub title is… DUPED BY ADOPTION & AN WOMAN’S STRUGGLE FOR IDENTITY, A BOOK STUDY an in-depth analyzes of the books called Forbidden Family; My Life as an Adoptee Duped by adoption & An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity by Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.

And here is the Facebook page…

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoptionStruggleforIdentity1/

AND NOW TO THIS POST…

So Joan receives an email from the National Council For Adoption about the ‘anti-adoption’ movement’s actions. Joan of course is ANTI-adoption and she itching for a fight and rallying her troops. Funny thing…here it is 6 years later, in 2016, and Joan has been distanced by most of the mainstream anti-adoption community! Joan is a ‘has-been’, she had her 15 minutes of fame, wrote/published the same book THREE TIMES and still is a NO-BODY! Her books are NOT listed in any ‘list of books written by adoptees’! Her message has always been destroyed by her hate, anger and lies against both birth and adoptive families. Her presentations and her counter attacks have proven that she can NOT hold the stage to present her ‘counter position’ to the ‘pro-adoption’ movements.

Is she really the most hated anti-adoption adoptee in America or the MOST dumbest? Where has it (her fighting) gotten her? Has she stopped adoption? Where is she today? Crying in her soup! She is NOTHING and has NOTHING. Adoption will CONTINUE on!

The link to her post follows. I am consolidating the ‘letter’ to conserve space here. Some comments to Joan’s post follow. If one is interested in seeing comments, they can go to Joan’s site and see them all, there are 15. I am NOT presenting all comments, but just a selection to show how Joan, and pal Mara, gang up on any opposing view. What I find interesting is the vitriol, that Joan and other adoptees use, does NOT change what they want changed! Such venom just turns people off and away from the speaker. Joan and gang cannot present their arguments in a clear calm manner! They don’t speak to law-makers only to each other and then they go on line and browbeat pro-adoption people with their hate.

https://forbiddenfamily.com/2010/08/13/invitation-from-chuck-johnson-and-the-ncfa-the-anti-adoption-community-is-working-overtime-stop-them-now/

Joan as legitimatebastard writes…

It came in my email inbox:

The anti-adoption community is working overtime.  Stop them now.

National Council For Adoption [ncfa@adoptioncouncil.org]  Thu 8/12/2010 11:43 AM

Dear Friend of Adoption,

At NCFA, we believe a nurturing, permanent family is every child’s birthright, yet there are those who actually oppose adoption and attack NCFA for our strong advocacy. In fact, the anti-adoption community is working overtime to counter our mission to promote a positive culture of adoption.

This opposition demonstrates our success as the nation’s authoritative voice for adoption. We have seen passage of several NCFA-supported initiatives on Capitol Hill, enjoyed our most successful National Adoption Conference ever, had a wonderful night out with 500 children waiting to be adopted and their foster parents with Kids at Heart at Nationals Park, appeared on CNN, and contributed to stories in Timemagazine, The New York Times, and the Associated Press.

What can you do to stop this negativity and anti-adoption efforts? You can make an urgent online, tax-deductible gift right now of $50, $75, or $100to ensure that adoption remains strong.  We need your immediate financial support so that we can continue our important advocacy on behalf of children, birthparents, and adoptive families all around the world.  Please, visit our website and make an urgent online, tax-deductible gift of $50, $75, or $100 and support our efforts to promote a positive culture of adoption.

You can also show your support for NCFA and adoption by joining our official Facebook Page by clicking here. Then, suggest our page to your Facebook friends.  We want our page to be a positive place where birthparents, prospective adoptive parents, and adopted persons can share their experiences about adoption and help raise awareness for the positive option of adoption for women facing an unplanned pregnancy.  Together, we will keep adoption strong, and we will not allow the anti-adoption minority to negatively influence policy and practice.

Will you please make an urgent online, tax-deductible gift right now of $50, $100, or $250 to ensure that adoption remains a positive option for women facing an unplanned pregnancy?  You can STOP the negativity and anti-adoption efforts:DONATE NOW to keep adoption strong.

With sincere thanks for your support, Chuck Johnson President and CEO

P.S.  Will you please forward this message to your friends, family, and contacts and ask them to make an urgent online, tax-deductible gift of $50, $75 or $100 to ensure that adoption remains strong?      &&& end of letter &&&

So how does Joan reply? The same as always with contempt!

OMG!

Chuckie, Chuckles, or whatever-you-want-to-call-him, is at it again.

Looks like I have no choice but to bring out some former posts from my previous blogs.

You asked for it, sweetie pie. Stay tuned.

Signed, Half-Orphan56, LegitimateBastard, best known as Joan Mary Wheeler BORN AS Doris Michol Sippel —- the most hated anti-adoption adoptee in America!

Why am I anti-adoption? Because I am PRO FAMILY PRESERVATION!

&&& and now some comments &&&

Lori A  says

I’m confused as to WHY they need money to shut up the so called anti adoption people? What will money do? I was expecting something like “post how happy you are” or “discredit them at every turn”. LOL, instead the logic is “we need donated money to keep them quiet?” I seriously dont get it. AUGUST 14, 2010 AT 9:23 PM

Mara says

Ahhhhh, poor up-Chuckie is afraid his baby business will be going out of business. Those responsible for sealing our birth records should have thought about your wellbeing, Chuckie, before they perpetrated their evil deeds. They did care that the babies would some day grow up and be PISSED. They only cared about the money at the time, just as you do now. Piss on your baby-pimping business you disgraceful vulture. AUGUST 15, 2010 AT 12:28 PM

Mara says I meant did NOT care, Chuckie, if that confused you at all.AUGUST 15, 2010 AT 12:29 PM

Chelsea says

Perhaps if you people would focus on what’s best for a child then maybe your anger would be less. Take a ride with me sometimes, a police officer who has to go in and literally peel a child off a hot radiator after his protector, his biologcal mother has beaten him half to death because he dared talk back to his step father. Or a young teenager who has just given birth several months ago gives the baby vodka so he can sleep through the night so she can go party with her friends because the little brat cries so much. Or the granddaddy of them all , a young girl who puts the newborn in a trash can because the baby’s father left her and she does not want to have anything to do with his bastard.

All these cases I have cited are all true. Tell me again that we should try and make a family anyway instead of getting these kids to famililes that will love them unconditionally and nuture them the way they should be loved. At the end of the day love and not biology should be the deciding factor. And as long as I am able to I will make sure these criminals lose all rights to these precious children and spend as much time in jail as possible. AUGUST 15, 2010 AT 2:03 PM

Mara says

Dear Chelsea….I AM AN EX-COP WHO WAS ADOPTED A BRUTALLY BEATEN, MOLESTED, AND PSYCHOLOGICALLY TORTURED BY THE MAN WHO ADOPTED ME.

As a police officer, I saw a lot of child abuse. I remember the adoptive grandfather who molested his new granddaughter by having her suck his p*nis. I took his confession. Don’t try to lecture me or anyone else on the “better than” scenarios of adoption. Myself and many of my adoptee friends are lucky to be alive because of the abuse of our adoptoraptors.

I agree that children should be removed from abuse. You and I agree on that. But taking them away from their biological family instead of helping them find kinship care and sealing their birth certificates is immoral and should be ILLEGAL. I’m lucky I survived my abuse. He threatened to kill me all the time. Take your preaching elsewhere, you have NO idea what you are talking about, Officer Chelsea. AUGUST 16, 2010 AT 9:56 AM

legitimatebastard says

LoriA – I think NCFA needs money to lobby louder on Capital Hill. Just my guess. Money speaks louder than our reality.

Mara – keep being pissed because we need bastards like you to keep the adoptive-parents-wannabees in on why we are mad!

Chelsea – what you see on your job is truly horrific, no question about it. We are not saying to put children back into the hands of parents who are abusive, BUT you need to know adoptive parents can also be abusive. Adoptees are injured and killed by their adoptive parents, too, so your logic falls flat. I’m a Social Worker so I know where you are coming from – I’ve been to court with clients who have lost their children due to nothing more than poverty. In the cases you site, removing a child and placing a child in a safe home is a good idea provided that means in extended kinship care or guardianship that will allow a child access to toehr family memebrs AND to maintain her or his identity at birth AND allow for sblings to be raised together. I lost ALL of my siblings and my identity at birth due to being relinquished and then adopted. And there was no good reason for me to lose everything so that my adoptive parents could have a child to love. It was by their will, and the courts, that I be forbidden access to my own full blood siblings — and THAT is child abuse of me, and the siblings left behind: psychological child abuse. Those wounds continue well into adulthood.  AUGUST 16, 2010 AT 12:04 AM

legitimatebastard says

NCFA IS desperate! They think that money is everything, can buy everything, including kids! Including bastards’ silence! Yes, we ARE onto them (NCFA) and they are afraid that if too many people in the general public read our blogs and posts, we bastards will actually make a change. THEY do not want the changes we have been saying for decades! Desperate, they are. Logical, we are! AUGUST 14, 2010 AT 3:59 PM

COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.

Yep…nothing more to say…Joan/Doris says it all! And adoption keeps on keeping on!

Review number 14 of Joan M Wheeler’s lying book ‘My Life as an Adoptee Duped by Adoption’

NEW REVIEW

duped by adoption & an woman's Struggle for Identity, a book study

Before we see this review a few statements of fact…

It NEEDS to be remembered that Joan’s first book ‘Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism’ was pulled from publication by the publisher in May 2011, due to libelous materials within its pages and her violation of her contract with that publisher.

Then in 2015, she ‘self-published’ a ‘revised’ version calling it ‘Forbidden Family, an adoptee duped by adoption’. This woman has no shame no sense of family honor!

Then in 2016 Joan changed her name back to her birth name, Doris M Sippel, and reedited and republished the SAME crap in another book; a third edition! CALLED ‘Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity’!

Talk about conning people!

She ADDED this statement, cleverly inserted in the first page of the ‘new’ book …

‘Accusations that this author has been sued for libel and…

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Joan M Wheeler opens her mouth on a news article: ‘this case is not about adoption, but it should be.’

That’s right! She will hijack any story and make it ‘into’ the story she wants; that adoption is an evil and that adoptees’ birth certificates are falsified! What she NEEDS to do and what she SHOULD do, but what she WON’T do is LOBBY the law MAKERS! Instead, she goes after any news story and any person trying to convince people that THEY are wrong. And, along the way, she does a bit of ‘resume padding’.

As is shown in a couple of replies below, the questions ARE what is the fundamental purpose of a birth certificate? What terms should be used to distinguish between biological parents and custodial parents? What should be done to list the same-sex parents and surrogacy or sperm donors? These valid questions that SHOULD be presented to law makers.

But when these questions are discussed, with and between people, who all have different views, JOAN can’t keep the dialogue going WITHOUT resorting to a) showing and padding her superior knowledge, b) condescending attitudes c) presenting her agenda and propaganda platforms d) insulting and name calling.

Here’s the link to the article where all comments are visible. Here I just present a few, including my own. See if you ‘see’ how she makes converts to her agenda!

The link will NOT show the comments but if you click on my name (below) it will direct you to my disqus comments and it will direct to show in contents of article.

http://www.npr.org/2015/09/21/442148968/gay-parents-face-issues-with-birth-certificates-in-some-states?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social#comment-2273762159

September 21, 2015  6:48 AM ET

Matthew to   MaryBe • 9 months ago

This case isn’t about an adopted child. That said, you raise questions that are germane to the conversation: namely, what is the fundamental purpose of a birth certificate?

In most contexts it is used to prove citizenship and parentage for purposes of custody. In that sense it makes perfect sense to place the names of non-biological parents on birth certificates. It certainly makes no sense to require a same-sex married couple who have a child via surrogacy and/or a sperm donor to go through a formal adoption process.

But as you point out, there is a desire to also trace biological heritage. Perhaps we just need to add another two lines to distinguish “biological parents” and “custodial parents”? Given the use of surrogacy as well maybe we also need “birth mother” too since she may not be the biological mother?

 

Forbidden Family  to  Matthew • 9 months ago

I am fully aware that this case is not about adoption, but it should be. I have researched this extensively and have worked on legislation. Birth and adoption are two different events that should be recorded as such. Now that we also have donor-conception and gestational surrogacy, it has been stated, by the people who are the products of such arrangements, that they, like adoptees, are resentful of the lies told on their birth certificates. To be clear, now we need birth certificates that will record the identities of all who have contributed their genes to produce a child: sperm donor father, egg donor mother, gestational surrogate mother. While you may think that the birth certificate was created to designate legal parentage, may I remind you that that was in the early days of birth certificates where babies were born and taken care of by the parents who made them. Birth certificates are just that: a medical record of a child’s birth. The attending physician signs his name, verifying the birth. There is no physician’s signature on the amended birth certificate of an adopted child since there was no birth. Therefore, this amended birth certificate should not be a birth certificate, it should be an adoption certificate created after a non-biological parent completes the steps necessary to become the legal guardian of a child she is not the genetic mother of. Seems to me that same-sex couples want to override nature. they can’t produce a child between the two of them, that is fact. Only the actual mother and the actual father should be named on the birth certificate. And that document should be open to the child for life. If the non-biological same sex spouse wants to be the legal parent. then an adoption should be completed and a truthful adoption certificate should state who adopted the child. Facts are facts. Reality is reality. Just ask the victims of birth certificate fraud.

gertmcqueen to  Forbidden Family • 9 months ago

right, this case should be about adoption because she is an adoption abolitionist, all things about adoption are evil to her mind. that being said…I do believe that there should be a genetic record for medical purposes for every person born.

Birth certificates reflect not only births but NAME CHANGES that is NOT falsifying it reflects the NAME change. To change the way the laws are today about how birth certificates are done, requires lobbing the law makers, not individuals who adopt or are pro-adoption…like myself.

To the best of my knowledge you may have done research on this topic but no where is it recorded that you ‘worked on legislation’, if you are talking about the ONE paper your presented to a public comment session that does NOT EQUATE to working on legislation.

Lencho to  MaryBe • 9 months ago

A birth certificate there to shows who your parents are [those who will have custody and responsibility of you as a child] your next of kin, not those who spawned you

Forbidden Family  to Lencho • 9 months ago

That is your opinion. Facts are facts. one sperm and one egg and perhaps one surrogate mother create a child. These are medical facts. The DNA proves who the parents are. If you do not want to accept reality, then do not play god with the realities of the people who are being created in artificial ways.

gertmcqueen to  Forbidden Family • 9 months ago

Who made you god to decide that other people’s opinion and actions are wrong?

Lencho to  Forbidden Family • 9 months ago

No one needs a birth certificate to prove they have been born, that is self-evident.

end and NOW an UPDATE OCTOBER 2016;

I’m updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler (Doris Michol Sippel) says about me and family.

The first book ‘Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism’ was pulled from publication by the publisher in May 2011. Then in 2015, she ‘self-published’ a ‘revised’ version calling it ‘Forbidden Family, an adoptee duped by adoption’. This woman has no shame no sense of family honor! Then in 2016 Joan changed her name back to her birth name and rewrote and republished the SAME crap in another book; a Third edition! CALLED ‘Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity’! Talk about conning people!

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

this blog’s title/sub title is… DUPED BY ADOPTION & AN WOMAN’S STRUGGLE FOR IDENTITY, A BOOK STUDY an in-depth analyzes of the books called Forbidden Family; My Life as an Adoptee Duped by adoption & An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity by Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoptionStruggleforIdentity1/

 

new book ??? by Joan M Wheeler

Check out my about page on my second blog about Joan’s BOOKS all three of them!

She’s such a fool!

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/about/

An example of how Joan M Wheeler goes about getting other people to do her dirty work and attack the birth siblings!

Joan says that when her birth siblings comment, on public news articles, they are stalking and harassing her! What?? We have as much right as any of the world’s billions to comment, on anything, particularly when it deals with ourselves and our family! Joan herself has poisoned many a well against us; years before we were ever ON the Internet.

But, once Joan wrote that first libelous book and more so today, after the second self-published revised book, we siblings will CONTINUE to speak out about her malicious lies and dirty deeds.

Has it ever occurred to Joan and her gang of bully friends, that if she NEVER wrote lies about family she would NOT hear from family? Of course not! Because Joan and her gang believe that only they have the right to speak ‘their truth’, for they are the adoptee! And their ‘truth’ is colored by their ‘anger and hate’ at being adopted and is directed at both birth and adoptive family members!

In this post we are revisiting a couple of older posts with some additional information! The intent is to show just how Joan goes about getting other people to do her dirty work.

First link is to a blog post in which I document the comment exchanges on a Huffington Post article.

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/more-attacks-upon-birthsiblings-by-joan-wheeler-on-huffington-post-january-2013/

Remember that it was events of January 15, 2013 when the above post was written.

Then on Facebook, January 23, 2013 (01/23/13), after that first exchange on Huffington Post, Joan puts out the distress call against us sisters and in May 2013 they attack us! That link will follow after we see Joan and friends exchanges.

On January 23, 2013 Joan M Wheeler says…

One of my sisters has again decided to stalk and harass me online. RuthHerrSippelPace commented on this article for the sole purpose of defaming me. Our older sister, Gert McQueen, did so in numerous comments on this article. She has been banned from Huff Post. I repeat, if any adoptee or any natural parent is involved in an abusive relationship with reunited relatives that were once separated by adoption, you have the right to get out of the relationship. My sisters have been and continue to be abusive to me. I want them out of my life. Period.

The ‘Real Parents’ Question To Stop Asking Adopted Kids

Kate Reinke says…

Her polluted stream of consciousness is almost incomprehensible,  so while trying to discredit you she really just makes herself look like a fool. She even replied to the wrong comment.

Joan M Wheeler says…

thanks, Kate Reinke…I know she looks like a fool. Gert McQueen has been banned, but she is back as honorsake. Check out her profile, she follows Ruth, and me. What will it take for them to leave me alone? I reported them, again.

Christine Monahan says…

They are both committable.

Gert back again…and here is my post about how Joan’s friends went after us…

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2013/05/13/putting-light-on-the-bullying-tactics-antics-of-joan-wheeler-forbiddenfamily-and-company/

What Joan doesn’t get is that she started all of this, but writing lies…and her lies are all over the Internet and we will continue to expose them and her. Joan has defamed, slandered and libeled us and the rest of two families and she doesn’t see that she has! But when we defend ourselves, point out the truth, we are stalking and harassing!

What I really ‘like’ is Christine’s comment, she’s been Joan’s earliest ‘militant angry adoptees’ friend who is hard core in her insults to anyone!

It is hard to fathom that these types of angry hateful people think nothing of slandering, libeling, condemning and insulting INNOCENT people who are DEFENDING themselves from those actions committed upon them by JOAN M WHEELER.

For more and continued coverage please take a look at my new blog and Facebook page

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoption1

and I’m NOT BANNED from Huffington Post

 

 

Joan M Wheeler’s story, about her life AND OTHERS, has taken on many forms and titles, over the years!

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too MANY titles, too many lies

duped by adoption & an woman's Struggle for Identity, a book study

Her chosen title has always been ‘Forbidden Family’ because she has this obsession; that being adopted meant she was ‘forbidden’ to know her birth family. Perhaps, that was true during her childhood with her adoptive parents, but like billions of others, as an adult she eventually KNEW her birth family. But that wasn’t enough for this idiot; she had to cause and make trouble within both families and then write libel about everyone, not once, but twice, in book form, and regurgitate it all over the Internet! Therefore she LOST both families.

In addition, because she couldn’t and didn’t ‘leave’ it (being adopted) alone she began to exhibit serious behavioral problems within her adoptive family, long before the birth family made contact. Then, once she was found and because she didn’t/doesn’t KNOW who or what she was/is and her behaviors were NOT accepted by the birth family, we of that…

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A new discussion topic on the ‘author’s page’ of Forbidden Family, Duped By Adoption!

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duped by adoption & an woman's Struggle for Identity, a book study

Any author’s work should stand up to critical analysis and discussion; for without such, the ‘work’ is just a vanity piece written for personal attention! Because the author, of this particular vanity piece, has written ABOUT family members, it is all the more important to use critical analysis and thinking and engage in discussions.

I placed the following ‘discussion’ on the author’s page. Please do read and partake in discussion!

Your initial post: Aug 17, 2016 8:49:30 AM PDT

gert mcqueen says:

People can write comments on each review and can start discussions. I have six discussions about this book; Gert Mcqueen’s discussion topics. Each discussion goes into greater detail about aspects of this book. As well, you may click on my name, in any comment, to reach my profile page.
The topics are:
1) about the FORWARD.
2) Author’s description of what’s in the book.
3) changes in…

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An old soldier leaves the field of activism; is Joan M Wheeler taking up that empty spot?

Perhaps Joan should take a long hard look at the toll that comes from beating a dead horse. Joan isn’t getting any younger, has several medical physical and mental conditions, is disabled and yet is in love with her long long years of fighting and must always remind people of them! But then again…Joan does NOT have what it takes to fill the shoes of Mirah Riben. I myself admire Mirah’s work! Joan can only slander/libel her two families, write two books of hate, rage, anger, and exploit the families for her OWN fame and fortune! Joan can only browbeat, intimidate, insult, and generally verbally beat up anyone who is pro-adoption. Joan has contributed NOTHING to the adoption reform platforms, many have disavowed her, yet she doesn’t ‘get it’. Joan is a ‘suck up’, thinking she can get an ‘endorsement’!  No, Joan hasn’t got the credibility to fill ANYONE’s shoes!

The whole story can be found here…

http://familypreservation.blogspot.com.au/2016/05/swan-song.html

 

In part Mirah said…

I’m too tired to go on beating my tired, worn out drum. I feel the toll physically of carrying around the angry passion that drove my life’s works – be it small, local issues or the insurmountable world terrorism and climate change ones.

I struggle now with how to “let go” and wonder who am I if I am no longer the hippie, rebel fighter of injustice and the voice for the poor, the marginalized and stigmatized, the mothers and babies in crisis.

I thought what I was experiencing was burn-out but I see it now as more like mellowing and fading out. We are often cautioned to pick our battles.  I now find it more productive for myself and my body and soul to put into deeper practice the wisdom of knowing that the only thing I can change is myself and accepting all rest that I cannot change.  I gave it my all and I know that I changed many lives, reuniting families and supporting mothers in crisis.

I am not dropping out, or losing my ideals … just stepping down and accepting gracefully and graciously that I am not indispensable in any of my areas of service.  I step aside and make room for the next generation, while still here to add my two cents. But, who I if I am no longer an activist being passionate about the injustices of the world?

My life is in transition and transitions are seldom easy.  I don’t know what lies ahead for me. Time will tell. I feel no urgency – no burning need to do anything right now. The wind is out of my sails and I am adrift. A rebel without a cause… Just relaxing and enjoying this next level of retirement.

I don’t know what will fill the void in my life. Like a person retiring from a lifelong career or a mother facing an empty nest, I don’t know what the future holds. Who am I if not a lifelong adoption activist?  Yet to be determined. All I know is I am no longer – CAN no longer be – that.  I can no longer beat my head against the wall.  I am not any more indispensable than any other. Neither I nor my input will likely be missed.

Doris Michol Sippel (formerly Joan Wheeler) said…

Mirah, I am saddened to learn you will be decreasing your involvement in the movement. You have been a valuable asset, a great teacher, an informative writer. Your passion, your pain, influenced me from 36 years ago at our first meeting in Philadelphia. I wish I had taken your photo back then. I can’t believe it had been this long…

Yes, I have been talking about the disgusting legal practice of falsifying birth certificates since I was found by family I did not know I had in 1974 at my age of 18. Ever since then, I have tried, and failed, to gather anyone’s interest in fighting this to the federal level. Not even a whimper in terms of acknowledgment that this is a problem, that it is identity theft. I’ve talked to the powers that be at AAC way back in 1989 and asked for an organizational effort to raise awareness and do a major class action lawsuit on a national scale. I do not recall who it was, but I was shushed aside, with an angry, “It cannot be done!” snarly comment thrown at me. I have been dismissed by the very organization from which I learned so much. Sure, it will be a bureaucratic nightmare to end falsified birth certificates on a national scale, but stopping this practice is what is needed.

About 8 years ago, I secured the attention of civil rights attorney who asked for information. So I sent him articles and blogs and books. After three months he announced that he would take on a class action case for adoptees, not for mere access to un-certified birth certificates, but for complete and total release of certified now-sealed birth certificates. And, he agreed to make every effort to end the practice of falsifying birth certificates of adopted people, with the provisions of nullifying falsified birth certificates if the adopted person wanted to do so. The catch? He wanted $175,000.00 up front to get started. He made it clear that that was his starting fee and the cost would rise as the complications of taking this to the federal supreme court would not only be expensive, but would take years. He knew I did not have the money, nor did the adopted people I knew at the time have the money. So the idea for a case was dropped.

I am beyond frustrated. Beyond disgusted.
Thank you for your work, Mirah. You WILL be missed. June 17, 2016 at 7:22 PM

 

Mirah Riben  replied…

Doris, Funny that you mention the AAC in 1989. I was Director at Large that year and the AAC was the most radical it was before or since. That year I helped organize a RED TAPE march around the Roosevelt Hotel in NYC and we had a seal breaking. Lots of press. Later that year was the march to Dc and speak out.

I remember constantly being up against the words “we can’t OFFEND anyone.” By “anyone, they meant apr and paps who they relied on for $$.

Then they went back to being self-serving.

Your atty story proves that it CAN be done even though you and I have both been told it’s impossible! It IS very possible, all we need is an atty who is willing to do it to make himself a name. We’d still need to raise actual costs.

Oh, well…someone else will have to carry that mantle… June 17, 2016 at 8:03 PM

Let’s now take a closer look at just two statements…

To quote Joan’s words…

I am beyond frustrated. Beyond disgusted.

To quote Mirah’s words …

I now find it more productive for myself and my body and soul to put into deeper practice the wisdom of knowing that the only thing I can change is myself and accepting all rest that I cannot change.

I ask…

whom has more dignity?

Six months prior, to this announcement of Mirah’s, Joan took another lawyer to task…that’s another whole different story, for another time.

Because the lawyer was FOR adoption, Joan lashed out at him…talk about alienating any possible help from THAT lawyer, or any, for the cause! And after some very nasty bitter statements by Joan and others, Mirah said…

I’m for giving …. a bit of break, meaning education him gently and kindly…the way ALL education should be done – and appreciating what he IS doing to help fathers!

Well, that advice didn’t and hasn’t changed Joan mindset, tone, or manner of browbeating anyone and it never will. No wonder Joan is so sick and doesn’t get anywhere!

Then we see, because Joan can’t help herself, we see Joan’s arrival to take on the mantle left by Mirah…hummm on second thought…perhaps NOT!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mirah-riben/adoption-related-trauma-a_b_10492058.html

I’m also updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler says about me and family. After the first book was pulled from publication by the publisher, May 2011, she has ‘self-published’ another ‘revised’ version. In this ‘version’ called ‘duped by adoption’ she has increased her exploitation by including PICTURES and REAL NAMES and much more personal information violating again the families. Joan has no decency NOR shame. There is NOTHING in this book for adoption reform. She is totally against adoption and her two families. To learn more see…

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoption1

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Gert says: “many have disavowed her, yet she doesn’t ‘get it’. – and I see evidence of that – right on my own facebook. I’ve had in the past three years, one private message from a guy who agreed to rent a room in Joan’s house – be a “boarder” – apparently it lasted about a week. This guy, who I never met, private messaged on facebook and told me that he couldn’t stand to hear Joan’s constant screaming rants to the air – about ME! He said (paraphrase) “she’s nuts. screaming and yelling all day long. I couldn’t get any rest – and it was all about YOU!”
From last summer – I’ve become facebook contacts with three adoptees who were berated by Joan on her facebook, insulted, called names and bullied because they disagreed with her. And those adoptees told her point blank on facebook “shut the hell up Joan.”
And just last month, another adoptee did the same.
I’m not an adoptee – but I am a victim of bullying of Joan – and because I am one of her birthsisters – who she routinely gossips about and slanders and cyber-bullys on her facebook, adoptees have come to know me and Gert.
Unlike some of the adoptees who have their heads up their ass regarding Joan and me – the adoptees that I have become fb contacts with have sensible heads on their shoulders. They know crazy when they see it. They can see exactly who the troublemaker is in Joan’s reunion with her birth family. And they have dropped her like a hot potato.
But like Trump, who is a narcissistic pathological liar just like Joan – Joan DOESN’T GET IT. She refuses to consider that her word is NOT golden. She will NEVER be Saint Joan/Doris of the Adoptees, who has delivered all the adoptees in the world from the pain of their lying parents (birth and/or adopted) and has been THE person who has abolished the institution of the adoption on the planet, AND succeeded in opening up every sealed adoption record in the world and returned ALL original birth certificates to all adoptees in the world.
Trump thinks he is god supreme in the business/political world, Joan thinks she is goddess in the adoption-reform world.
She is in for one hell of a let down. — and when it comes – I know exactly what she will say: “It’s my birthsister RUTH’S fault.”

very nasty behavioral patterns…some exhibited by ‘duped by adoption’

always best to learn behavioral patterns, so you are not targeted

duped by adoption & an woman's Struggle for Identity, a book study

here’s a great article on learning and understanding behavioral patterns…

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