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Weak Stupid Minds Think Alike – Joan Wheeler the Master Manipulator has found another willing puppet.

by on August 26, 2011

Some people have nerve. Some people like to spend time sticking their nose where it doesn’t belong. Some people like to brag about their “professional credentials.” Some people like to shove their “professional ideals” at other people. Some people like to pretend that they know what’s good for other people’s lives. And some people like to resort to subterfuge and end up making themselves look like the total fools that they really are.

On June 22, 2011, on my blog, Refuting a Book of Lies, I received the following comment from a woman who named herself Daisy.

“I think that the fact that you spend so much time on this issue suggests you have a problem. If you were secure in yourself, you would be able to just think, “Well, that’s her opinion,’ and let it go. Instead, you seem to work constantly to escalate this to the point of scary. If I was your sister, I’d get a restraining order as well as a cease and desist order. And I’d ask the court to recommend you get some psychiatric help.”

Well, I answered her and she didn’t respond back. Mmm. – or did she?

On August 24, 2011, this blog received this comment from Susan:

“As I’m sure ‘comment awaiting moderation’ means that you will censor anything you don’t like to hear, I doubt my comment will appear on your page. Still, I hope that you will seriously consider my input, as I’m sure I’m not the first to encourage you to find a way to move past your anger and blame and try to live a normal life, even if your sister isn’t part of it. And: ‘It must be difficult and draining to maintain this level of rage. I hope someday you can find it in your heart to forgive and move on.”

Joan Wheeler and her puppets must think Gert and I are stupid. Not only did we find out who Susan is – Susan Thompson Underdahl, Williston, ND 58801, but we found out that Susan is really ––  wait for it …… DAISY!  We have the evidence to prove it too.

Now, in the past, Joan Wheeler has gone to members of the Adult Adoptee forum and urged them to come over to my blog and leave comments – we have that evidence – back in February 2010 she left a post on the forum whining “help me stop my sisters.” So a whole bunch of them came over – I had 180 hits that day, as well as a few filthy obscene comments. In May of 2010, Joan whined to the adoptees again, and again some of them came over. But not so many this time, only about 48. And if memory serves, we only got one obscene comment. (nice “adults” – go to someone’s blog and say F You. – what? Are we still in high school?) In September 2010, Joan whined on the adoptee forum about us again. Asking for help. NO RESPONSE FROM THE ADOPTEES! My my my. Oh, but Joan didn’t give up. She found help in her new boyfriend Russ. Russ came to our blog September – November 2010 and also left obscene messages. And he’s in his 50’s! After I threatened him with the police, he disappeared. Joan has a new puppet – Susan Underdahl.  Susan came to my blog on June 22, 2011 and left that rotten message but wasn’t woman enough to use her real name. She signed herself as Daisy.

One month later, the end of July, Gert started her own blog, this blog right here. The first three weeks were kinda slow. Gert was still learning how to blog, how to navigate around wordpress and how to post things, how to link things, etc. She put up a couple of good posts, but this past week she put up some real good posts! All of a sudden, both our blogs started getting hits from some blogs – blogs that were accessed as a front – to hide the fact that it was Joan Wheeler reading our blogs. We know it’s Joan, because we know what websites she uses, and it’s just like her to be sneaky and underhanded and get other people to do her dirty work. Unlike us – everything we say and do is out in the open.

 So now Joan is aware that Gert has a blog and exposing her for the sneaky rotten lliar that she is. What does she do? She’s too much of a coward to face us. To own up to her lies and the shit she has done to us. She’s too much of a coward to speak to us directly. Does she go back to the adoptee forum and ask them to come over to Gert’s new blog and give us hell? NO. She goes back to Daisy! And Daisy leaves two little condescending comments but this time, she IS woman enough to sign as her real name as  Susan Underdahl. 

So Susan – I want to ask you a question – just who do you think you are? You come over to my blog on June and leave me a snotty comment and you don’t even have the courage to use your real name, then you come over to Gert’s blog and leave another snotty comment. Well, you just showed everyone what an ass you are. Not only are you such a fool as to fall for Joan’s manipulations, but you don’t even have any backbone.

I showed you in June the TRUTH about Joan – but no— you don’t want to see the truth. You think that Gert and Ruth are psychopaths and WE are the ones who need psychiatric help. Oh no, sweetie – it is not we who need psych help – it is Joan and YOU.

You have a lot of dam nerve coming to this blog and start reaming us out when Joan has that lying cyberbullying page where she has information on it that clearly shows that she is demented.

Susan, your website states the following: “Aside from writing, Susan’s primary working life revolves around her job as a clinical neuropsychologist, a specialist who works in the evaluation and treatment of individuals suffering from brain injury or dementia. She is also a clinical supervisor of graduate students at the University of North Dakota in Grand Forks.”

We did not ask you to come over here and offer YOUR opinion on the state of our mental health. I asked you before on my blog, what are your qualifications to make the statement  “And I’d ask the court to recommend you get some psychiatric help.”

Well, I see from your website that you are a “clinical neuropsychologist, a specialist who works in the evaluation and treatment of individuals suffering from brain injury or dementia.” So I see that you have some background in psychology, however, since you have never met me or Gert, in a CLINICAL SETTING, nor given us A PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM, you have no business saying what you have.

Now I wonder what the State Ethics Board of North Dakota and the University of North Dakota in Grand Forks would say if they knew that you were going around on the internet diagnosing people with mental health problems WITHOUT EXAMINING THEM. And I will send them the evidence that proves that you Susan, and Daisy, are the same person.

If I were you, I’d cut your puppet strings from Joan Wheeler and learn to think for yourself. You need to take a good look at Joan Wheeler and really SEE her for the person she really is. Have you READ her cyberbullying page? NO? Why not? How can you get a complete diagnosis without looking at all the angles of a problem? And you are a supervisor overseeing students? God help us – what the hell are they learning from you?

Susan, you are a beautiful woman. You should go in for modeling. Because you are a failure as a psychologist. You allowed yourself to be manipulated and scammed by a Master Manipulator and Liar – Joan Wheeler.

As for someone’s mental state – well, your stooping to play games showed us how immature YOU really are. You may have a pretty face, but as they say “Beauty is skin deep.”

For more thoughts on Susan, see the following posts: “Observations by Susan and our answers” and “Notice to Susan Thompson Underdahl – from Ruth Sippel Pace”

Daisy - Susan Puppet - but who is pulling her strings? - Joan Wheeler, that's who!

comment by Gert

Amazing!! the level that some people will sink to. Hey, puppets everywhere…listen up!!

Ruth and I, Gert, are NOT going away…we shall answer and set right each and every statement that Joan Wheeler has said in print, period. Get that? NOONE gets the right to defame the name and character of me, my family and my parents. Joan Wheeler is getting scared…she sees the writing on the wall…the blogs…and she is helpless to stop us from exposing her for the rotten things she has done.

If Joan or any of her puppets seem to think that we are in the wrong then by all means…take the proper action! Call the police, get a lawyer, get an order, take me to court…I can’t wait to hear from you, in the proper channels! Certainly you are free to voice your opinion, but, you can not influence me from speaking my truth, the truth and exposing Joan Wheeler for every lie and fabrication she has printed.

Unlike Susan, who writes FICTION, Joan Wheeler has written a book of fiction but named it NON-FICTION and therefore opened the door for us to contest the book, show the lies and fabrications and take action against the book and Joan herself. Furthermore, Joan used her real name, because she is so self-centered, and would not and could not distance herself from the lying story she wrote. Why do you think that the publisher PULLED the book from publication? They saw the writing on the wall and dropped the book like a hot potatoe. They want NOTHING to do with a libelous book, they don’t want to be in court!

When Joan first got on the adoptee forum…which is a public forum…she used her real name…joanmw as a signature…look at older posts to verify that. Once Joan noticed that we were hip to her posts people on the forum suggested that she NOT use her real name…but…Joan said that she had to because she is PUBLIC and wrote a book. Well, then, if you are public and you wrote a book in her real name, than, you are subjected to criticism! You can’t have your cake and eat it too!

So, Joan then uses a signature, on the forum of 333/I’m only half evil…real nice…trully showed us her true nature….but again, once Joan noticed that we knew that name she again changed it! Hey, if you are going to go public than stay public, stop hiding and using other people!

So Susan/Daisy and other puppets, cut the damn strings that Joan put on you…she isn’t worth ruining your life over. Joan has done a great job all by herself of ruining her own life…Ruth and Gert are only refuting the lies and reclaiming our honor…if you don’t understand that…than find someone to explain it to you.

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4 Comments
  1. Amazing!! the level that some people will sink to. Hey, puppets everywhere…listen up!!

    Ruth and I, Gert, are NOT going away…we shall answer and set right each and every statement that Joan Wheeler has said in print, period. Get that? NOONE gets the right to defame the name and character of me, my family and my parents. Joan Wheeler is getting scared…she sees the writing on the wall…the blogs…and she is helpless to stop us from exposing her for the rotten things she has done.

    If Joan or any of her puppets seem to think that we are in the wrong then by all means…take the proper action! Call the police, get a lawyer, get an order, take me to court…I can’t wait to hear from you, in the proper channels! Certainly you are free to voice your opinion, but, you can not influence me from speaking my truth, the truth and exposing Joan Wheeler for every lie and fabrication she has printed.

    Unlike Susan, who writes FICTION, Joan Wheeler has written a book of fiction but named it NON-FICTION and therefore opened the door for us to contest the book, show the lies and fabrications and take action against the book and Joan herself. Furthermore, Joan used her real name, because she is so self-centered, and would not and could not distance herself from the lying story she wrote. Why do you think that the publisher PULLED the book from publication? They saw the writing on the wall and dropped the book like a hot potatoe. They want NOTHING to do with a libelous book, they don’t want to be in court!

    When Joan first got on the adoptee forum…which is a public forum…she used her real name…joanmw as a signature…look at older posts to verify that. Once Joan noticed that we were hip to her posts people on the forum suggested that she NOT use her real name…but…Joan said that she had to because she is PUBLIC and wrote a book. Well, then, if you are public and you wrote a book in her real name, than, you are subjected to criticism! You can’t have your cake and eat it too!

    So, Joan then uses a signature, on the forum of 333/I’m only half evil…real nice…trully showed us her true nature….but again, once Joan noticed that we knew that name she again changed it! Hey, if you are going to go public than stay public, stop hiding and using other people!

    So Susan/Daisy and other puppets, cut the damn strings that Joan put on you…she isn’t worth ruining your life over. Joan has done a great job all by herself of ruining her own life…Ruth and Gert are only refuting the lies and reclaiming our honor…if you don’t understand that…than find someone to explain it to you.

  2. The OTHER Lilac permalink

    What a disaster! Having been in exactly the same position, I happen to be a “main character” in Daisy’s book…yes, the BIRTH SISTER. And it’s not that I haven’t exactly forgiven her for ignoring me all throughout the 10 plus years I lived in her small town (getting to know her), failing to include me in any of the raising of her children (for fear of ADOPTIVE MOTHER finding out I existed, through accidental mutterings of innocent grandchildren)…um, yeah. This situation is tragic, though somewhat expected in those crazy reunion with your REAL FAMILY adoption situations.

    She is a little overly-analytical, and dry in her humor, if not somewhat cold hearted and unsympathetic (has to do with being ABANDONED by our/her/my mother. Whatever.

    Anyway, just want you to know your emotions are VALIDATED. That you are not alone though this subjected IS under-written about by all members of the TRIAD, and none of us should expect ANY OF IT to go smoothly, even THIS MANY YEARS LATER. Yup, working on TWENTY YEARS of “how is this supposed to work again?”

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