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Joan Wheeler has a new friend, by the name of Champ! don’t tell her we know, wink, wink!

by on April 24, 2012

I know this is a long post, but it is well worth the time in reading it…for Joan really gives us a deep look into her mind.

In her frustration and inability to get us siblings to shut up and in the fact that no one on the public forum, of adoptees, will come to her aid any more and even her old boyfriends are not able to intimidate us, Joan has decided to assume yet another identity. Joan got this idea, of a blog written by a defender, from her old boy-friend Russ. Her newly created blog is called…

Defending Joan Wheeler by Champ…found @ defendingjoanwheeler.blogspot.com

Okay I’ll play along…Champ! That’s the name on the profile and supposedly the author of this blog…but actually and truthfully it’s none other than Joan! For only Joan would do such a stupid thing as this, put out a new blog, on blogspot, with the intent of intimidating blood siblings! Joan is reaching! She really doesn’t have any friends to stick up for her and so she has to create them!

Alright, for the sake of argument, as the saying goes, let’s give Champ the benefit of the doubt that the author is someone other than Joan. If that is so I wonder why this ‘knight in shinning armor’ can not and will not be MAN enough to provide (I’m being politically correct here) his or her name? Why, if you really feel the need to defend this ‘damsel in distress’ why not come out in the open and defend her properly, like a man, or woman, but do it right and proper or disappear into the shadows of darkness from where you came and while you are at it, take Joan with you, please!

Now why do you think I feel this way? Because this blog is written by Joan and her alter ego! She came to our blog, in March of 2012, thinking that she would put a stop to us, only to have given us, again, more to work with…fool that she is. So in her desperation, speaking to her inner self, and listening to it, she creates Champ! Nice work, fool!

Taking it from the top…Champ says his/her (and now I shall drop the PC language and go back to the general usage of the masculine of the pronoun) his name isn’t important. The hell it isn’t! If you are a defender, than that means you BELIEVE in the person you are defending, and, if you CAN NOT name yourself, than your so-called defense is meaningless! You can not hide behind a nameless position, when you claim to defend someone, against her siblings and at the same time GO AFTER those same sibling! Fool!

Champ says this blog, at blogspot, is not about him, if that is so then you should have no problem with being upfront and honest and NAME yourself! You claim to understand honor, more than I, (we shall return to that) but yet you act/write in a totally dishonorable manner. I and my sisters have no difficulty about giving our full names, and neither does Joan, for that manner, when she wants to exploit the birth family. But Champ can’t come out of the darkness and name himself! Fool…instead he maintains he is not Joan and she didn’t put him up to making this blog! No, this is Joan because she immediately wants everyone to believe she has a friend, a defender, and yet…the guy can’t give his name…because he/she/it is gutless.

No, unless Champ comes clean and tells his real name, the assumption is that Champ is Joan and I shall continue to prove it! Joan is not clever enough to assume another identity…she is incapable of doing so and this blog is fully Joan speak! Even if someone (which I doubt) was close enough to Joan to use some of her verbiage the other person could not get ALL of Joan’s peculiar angles of speech and her view of life right, as Champ has done. Joan is a copy-cat and Champ is using all of Joan’s usage of her sibling’s phrases that Joan cops from our posts! Joan has been studying our blogs…and she uses our words and phrases, frequently and I can spot them anywhere! Maybe this Champ is the wooden dummy on Joan’s lap….like I said, this is Joan speaking.

And the first thing Champ wants to do is introduce us to Joan! How sweet! How protective! How phony! Friend or not, facts ought to be presented, not fiction. Joan does have a degree in Social Work, but that is useless because she has not worked as one and that is a huge difference. So that is no endorsement! Joan COULD be a good writer if she didn’t lie and make things up. Joan is NO kind of an activist, for any cause. Joan is a bully, a browbeater and a harasser who goes out of her way to beat pro-adoption people up. Her behavior is what we siblings are exposing. If you don’t like your behavior to be exposed, Joan, don’t do it!

Yes Joan wrote a book, but it was libelous, that is why the publisher pulled it from publication. If you don’t like that fact, take it up with the publisher! We siblings didn’t write the book and we didn’t lie in the book and we didn’t break the contract with the publisher…Joan DID! So Champ/Joan stop blaming the wrong guy. Own up to your own mistakes and take it like a woman or if you are the defender, name yourself and take up the challenge of defending Joan in FULL view of the world instead of hiding behind, either, Joan’s shirts or your own lack of personal dignity and honor.

Joan’s writing of the book was for her to get fame and fortune, period….it’s in the book, in her own words! Did you forget that Joan? That you put the reasons for writing the book in the book? Fool! Sounds to me as if Champ/Joan is trying a new angle at the ‘real’ reason for that libelous book…’to bring to light the potential issues surrounding the way adoption is handled in the US today’. Give me a break! I’ve read and analyzed that book and written about that book and there is probably less than 100 pages, out of 670+, that have anything remotely related to ‘the way adoption is handled’. Joan/Champ you really do not have a clue do you?

The way that Joan experienced adoption was at the hands of the people who adopted her! The birth family had NOTHING to due with Joan, period! In reunion, it was Joan who destroyed it all and it was Joan who wrote lies about everyone in the birth family. We have provided documents to prove certain things and we have told the ‘other’ side…and we shall continue to do so. It is because we are NOT going away is why Joan/Champ have started this blog….fool!

The book is in ‘no way aimed at self-agrandisement, nor attack on any individual or family’…what the f…!!! If Champ isn’t Joan than this person NEVER read the book and if Champ is Joan, which I believe to be the case, than Joan has really gone over the edge!! The book IS all about Joan; that self-aggrandizement; if it isn’t WHY bring it up? And the book is FULL of attacks on the entire adoptive and birth families! Joan/Champ you really do need to get back on your meds!

The next paragraph is totally Joan-speak…word for word! Some friend you are Champ! Why can’t you come up with your OWN words, to introduce Joan to us? Simple, fool because you are Joan! So then Champ/Joan goes on to inform us that this new blog is NOT to recommend her book, even tho it IS WORTH reading, my ass! and the blog is NOT to promote adoption reform, even tho that is ‘much needed’. Do you really believe that I am that stupid, Joan? Of course this is you speaking you fool!

What Champ/Joan is ‘trying to accomplish is to counteract the viscous, vindictive blogs of Joan’s three natural sisters’. Oh dear me, Joan has NOT BEEN ABLE TO SILENCE US and so now Joan must resort to having an imaginary friend, a defender if you will, who refuses to come out in the open with his sword to slain those nasty birth sisters! I’m shaking in my boots!!

Champ continues…’they, the sisters, have maliciously and spitefully had Joan’s book pulled from publication due to their egocentric and totally erroneous belief that the book was written about them.’ Oh dear me…I really hate to break this to you Champ, but, gee, you sure do sound, word for word, like Joan! Yep, Joan’s book was pulled because of our (the sisters’) egocentric and totally erroneous belief that the book was about us. Gee, Champ you got me! My mistake, hell if I thought the book was ABOUT ME, I would have had NOT PROBLEM WITH IT. But you see, in my non-egocentric view, I knew it wasn’t about me, but about JOAN.

If, as you say, in defending Joan, and what Joan says, that the book was NOT ABOUT US, then why did she write about us? This is a very important point! Most of the book was a hateful tirade against every member of the birth family and most of the adoptive family…so you Champ can drop the bullshit line…Joan wrote from HER ego-centric position. It is always about Joan.

Joan is so predictable, in her actions, in her attempts to shut us up. This new blog, of hers, is just another version of her cyberbullying blog, which I had addressed, in the same manner as I’m doing this one, with contempt and truth. Joan is a fool; she NEVER learns a thing. She really ought to let it all go because there is no way she can win. She’s a dead goose!

Champ says that what he is trying to accomplish, with this blog, is to counteract the blogs of Joan’s three natural sisters. Yep that’s right, that is what Joan is trying to, by assuming another identity. Champ writes that we sisters have ‘maliciously and spitefully’ had Joan’s book pulled from publication. Gosh, the reality must have finally gotten to Joan for she now acknowledges that the book has been PULLED. But notice that Champ uses the same choice of words that Joan uses, everywhere, about anyone, birth or adoptive family member who ever crossed her; maliciously and spitefully. NO SORRY those were not the reasons we had the book pulled. TRUTH and LIBEL where the reasons the book was pulled…fool!

It really must piss Joan off that Kathy has little to nothing to say about her, let alone to her, for why else would Champ/Joan mention it. Chayelet’s Blog has had nothing new placed on it and that pisses Joan off. Joan is trying it get a ‘rise’ out of Kathy. The fact that recently Ruth put out a ‘time-line’ of our internet activity seems to be one of the driving forces behind this NEW approach of Joan’s; this phantom defender! Ruth and I have recently made it quite clear that we are THREE sisters not ONE and that Kathy has really NOTHING to say to Joan…that really has to bite doesn’t it Joan? That you are so insignificant that someone doesn’t even THINK about you let alone not WRITE about you; you poor thing you really do need attention!

And so Champ says that Kathy is the (least viscous of us three) how nice of you to notice! BTW the correct spelling is vicious not viscous. Joan/Champ you really ought to be more careful and use the spell checker!! Such a give away! And you did it twice in one paragraph…fool!

Champs continues to say that Kathy defends herself from ‘imagined attacks’; no they were very real, when they happened, and as that libelous book proved, still have been happening over and over again, by Joan’s repeated lies, in print, about what really happened. We have provided documents to prove those ‘attacks’, but, Joan’s refusal to acknowledge those facts, does not negate the reality of the fact that ‘attacks’ did indeed happen to Kathy by Joan. Champ’s use of the words ‘fabricated’ and ‘patently false’ and ‘time to time’ are words/phrases that I, Gert, have used to describe Joan’s presentation of facts and Ruth’s recent comment that Kathy only posts from ‘time to time’. Joan/Champ you really need to be more careful in the words that you are putting out of your mouth…they smack of Joan Wheeler.

Yes, it is very true…Joan DOES use people, so Kathy has not lied about that either. Documents prove that Joan used Rene Hoksbergen to attack Kathy! Gee Champ didn’t Joan show them to you? Oh, she must have forgotten all that, after all that happened a long time ago, probably not as long as Champ has known Joan or came to the fore-front of Joan’s mind or since Champ never really read our blogs.

Yes, I’m sure Champ has known Joan for ‘some time’ probably as long as Joan has put a name to that inner voice of hers! Be that as it may, anyone who is claiming to be friend/defender of Joan’s really should NOT be taunting her ‘good points’; that’s so patently self-serving Joan and such a give-away as to who is really Champ!

Now Champ/Joan turns his attention to Ruth; an ‘entirely different kind of person’; gosh that’s news to me! Here we really see Joan at her hateful best, for Joan really does hate Ruth the most. First Champ/Joan gives Ruth’s full correct name and says she has written two blogs. Well Ruth has more than two but that’s not important. But, right away Ruth turns into Ruthie. This change is important on two fronts because it could be based on two separate yet vital details. Joan/Champ has slipped by using the childhood name of Ruthie, instead of Ruth or has intentionally used the childhood name, of Ruth’s, with malicious and spiteful intentions. Either way…Joan has again, showed that she is incapable of putting off the notion that she is another person…Champ. So, don’t listen to that man behind the curtain, for it is only Joan’s inner voice talking, but to continue on.

Poor Joan’s reputation has been damaged, by Ruth(ie). How does it feel Joan to have the other shoe fall on you? After decades of you doing dirt to Ruth, then writing about it, in a book that has NOTHING to do with Ruth or Gert or Kathy, as you keep saying, Ruth finally has the opportunity to speak up and out against your dirty deeds and all you are concerned about is YOUR reputation! What a hypocrite you are Champ/Joan. You fool no one but yourself, fool!

Let’s go back for a second to ‘an entirely different kind of person’. Besides the fact that every human is unique, there are differences in their ‘styles’. Ruth’s style is different from Kathy’s and Gert’s. Joan can not handle that! Because she still can’t come to terms with the fact that we are three different people and by definition that makes us different. But, I think what Joan/Champ is referring to is Ruth’s anger! But, you know, Joan/Champ, if you really look at Joan’s writings, in the book, on her web-sites, the forum, internet news site and anywhere where Joan browbeats and bullys others, Joan is ANGRY. It’s okay for Joan to express her anger but not okay for Ruth? So, what’s makes Ruth a ‘entirely different person’? Ruth knows the truth of all the dirty deeds that Joan has done, to Ruth and others, and Ruth is NOT afraid to speak out and tell the truth. Ruth doesn’t have to create a imaginary friend to play with and do her dirty work with, for Ruth is, if not anything but REAL, and yes sometimes real isn’t pretty. Joan just doesn’t get REAL because she isn’t real in an normal sense of the word.

Does Ruth get a bit carried away? Sure! Doesn’t Joan get carried away? So, if Joan can do anything and say whatever she does, then Ruth certainly is allowed to do the same. If what Ruth is saying about Joan doesn’t sit well with Joan, well, you know Joan/Champ your karma has just come around to hit you in the head; so deal with it.

It is amazing to read some of the terms that Champ/Joan uses to describe Ruth…sounds like Joan describing herself! whining, complaining, repetitive, threatening, boring, foul-mouthed, bullying, disgusting, world revolves around her! Yep those words describe Joan, we usually see ourselves in others! Ruth knows her weak points but Joan apparently doesn’t. Champ goes on to say that Ruth sees ‘that the book was a personal attack on Joan’s natural family’. If the truth hurts, Joan, deal with it. As you keep saying Joan, the book is not about us, then, why are we all in it and why are our lives detailed and lied about it the book? If the book isn’t about us, why are we in it?

Champ/Joan wonder about the amount of time that Ruth puts into the posts that she writes and they feel that Ruth doesn’t have time for anything else in life; how touching; they are concerned! Well, besides holding down a job, something that Joan doesn’t do, Ruth certainly does do many other things in her life. But, Champ/Joan what business is that of yours? What do you care what Ruth, or anyone else, does with their life? I certainly am not speaking here for Ruth, she is quite capable of doing that herself, but the point is, if Joan has a purpose/mission in life to talk about adoption, than why can’t Ruth have a purpose/mission in her life, refuting the many lies of Joan Wheeler, and spend as much time as she wants doing so? Joan Wheeler attend to your own life and leave others to theirs! We siblings are refuting and setting the record straight from all your lies and there is nothing you can do about that. If others, in the world, want to adopt why don’t you let them alone? Their lives are not your business. If Joan wants to change adoption, as done in the US, than Joan should go to the lawmakers instead of beating up people on the internet. Personally, I don’t get a damm how much time Joan spends on her purpose/mission but I shall continue to expose her bullying.

Moving on, Champ/Joan say they can’t see/understand our concept of ‘honor’, well if it has to be explained to you, than you really do need to get back to school. My job here is not to educate Joan Wheeler on the concepts of honor. What I do find interesting is how Joan/Champ have given us a inside view into Joan Wheeler’s mind! Stupid move Joan/Champ! Talk about dumb! Champ, you kinda of let the cat out of the bag with this one…’that her mother would be weeping tears of embrassment and asking herself how her family members could have produced such a hateful human being’…oh this is so Joan Wheeler at her best! How did Champ do it? How did this guy, this so-called defender, get inside the brain of Joan, to come up with this crap that only Joan produces? Do you really need me to tell you how? Because Champ isn’t Champ, he’s Joan! Fool!

Joan is forever doing this kind of shit …putting words in people’s mouths. In this case having our mother speak against one of her children! Pure fantasy, nonsense and double crap! This kind of statement is typical of the kind of guilt trips that Dorothy Wheeler, Joan’s adoptive mother, placed on Joan and Joan has internalized it. Joan has always viewed a natural/birth mother from some kind of sick perverted place that has nothing remotely close to the truth of our mother. And Joan questions our honor? She has shown again that she does not get it! Listen up Joan! By you having Champ say these words you are dishonoring your mother, fool! Can’t you get it? If not you really are worthless because right here in this statement by your ‘defender’ you have dishonored your mother! Fool!! And you have the nerve to reverse it onto Ruth! Joan/Champ you are the dung heap, which is full of all the shit you, Joan, have spewed. Now your face is in it!

Then Champ does the same thing that Joan has done, before to Gert, question the other’s (Ruth’s)mental health/stability; ‘one can only judge Ruthie’s mental stability for themselves’. Joan questioned Gert’s mental stability over Gert’s choice of religion and got kick out of our father’s home for it! Sure, we siblings, have discussed Joan’s mental health/stability, in detail for it’s all there for the whole world to see, Joan wrote a book all about her mental INSTABILITY and we are only showing it to the world. So now, the best that Champ/Joan can do is to throw the same back at us; how original! NOT! And no, Champ/Joan doesn’t pity Ruth! Who do you think you are kidding, all that statement means is another ‘dig’ at Ruth, because Joan can’t shut her up!

Hey Champ, you really ought to be telling Joan this, and not Ruth…’at some point she would realize that something might not be quite right with her and seek the psychological therapy she needs, no mentally stable individual carries such hate, let alone acts on it, for as long a time as she has.’ Yep, Champ, you need to direct that statement and concern to Joan, for she didn’t get it from us, over the years, that we have been telling her and most recently since you, Champ/Joan, came to my blog and left a comment! Fool!! That’s one of the reasons for this new form of ‘attack’ by Joan to her birth siblings; everytime Joan ‘tries’ to defend herself, she fails and so she created a DEFENDER! Fool!!

And now Champ/Joan gets to the ‘meat’ of this new defensive blog of Joan Wheeler’s; Gert McQueen…hey that’s me!

Hey, Champ/Joan, you really are giving Ruth(ie) far too much power here! Ruth doesn’t need a ‘yes man’, she is quite capable of standing on her own two feet. And me, Gert, am NO ONE’S yes man! I AM MY OWN PERSON and NO ONE OWNS ME. Get it? Got it? Joan/Champ I have debated and ‘fought’ battles of words/concepts/wits with individuals, far greater and wiser than yourself and I have won because of the concepts of truth and honor, concepts that you are just plain incapable of understanding let alone know and live by! So why don’t you, Champ/Joan go and find some other play ground to play in and find some one else to browbeat and bully, for I’m NO MATCH FOR YOU. Fool!! Is this the best you can do, Champ/Joan/fool!

Joan/Champ, you really haven’t a clue about who and want I am, do you? You just can’t figure me out. I’m that great mystery that you just can’t crack. Get use to it because I am far more powerful than you can imagine! I don’t need Ruth, or Kathy, to go after you. I can do it ALL BY MYSELF and that pisses you off! Joan/Champ you have no idea of how deeply you hurt me and to what depths I shall go to collect my due FROM YOU! It was your self that gave me the opportunity, your lying libelous book, you fool! So perhaps you are right in saying that Gert ‘believes she somehow owns Joan’s life’; Joan/Champ must have just began to see and feel (?) how deeply this (the pain that Joan Wheeler caused the birth family) goes! Why else would Joan hide behind an imaginary defender? Because she can’t do it herself because she is weak and stupid and a fool!

I am Gertrude, spear-maiden, and I shall go to the depth of hell to pursue Joan Wheeler’s lies about myself and family…that scares you doesn’t it Joan/Champ? It ought to because it is the truth, you shall never be free from me, unless and until, you make restitution for all your crimes to each member of the birth family. Did I not tell you, Joan, to give me that book? You did NOT and I therefore I TOOK IT. So, if you want freedom from me, all you have to do is say you are sorry for the damages you have done and remove all your blogs, including the fool here, Champ’s, that have all this hateful crap against us. It’s really quite simple…fool!

Champ/Joan seems to think that my blog, Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor, is a ‘hateful tirade’. He/she/it also didn’t check the spell checker again; the word is STOLE not STOLD…fool. In Joan/Champ’s anger she/he/it forgot that he/she/it isn’t Joan, but that don’t matter cause we already figured that out…Joan! Fool! It was only here, in April of 2012, that Joan placed this (mine) blog site on her cyber-bullying blog against us. Joan/Champ you really ought to be aware that you left an internet footprint on my blog when you checked to see if your update worked! Fool!

Hey Champ! You really need to spend some time away from Joan, you know, guy, you are beginining to sound just like her! How close are you two anyway? Maybe you need a little ‘away’ time from her, cause man, you are starting to sound just like Joan! and you know that ain’t what a knight in shinning armor should sound like, you know, if that’s what you are and all, you know, man, you have a reputation to maintain, you are, afterall, a defender, ain’t you?

So, Champ, let’s drop some of this bullshit okay, your imagination might be improved if you did. We’ll leave the question about honor for a moment, okay? I won’t forget because you know Joan needs to learn about that and perhaps if you, Champ, and I have a close conversation, perhaps you could then maybe explain it to her? Do you think she may listen to you? Cause you know, man, she don’t listen to reason, nor to anyone and well, you being her defender and all perhaps you got some clout or cloud…depending on where Joan’s mind is at any given moment, cloud, clout, okay! Any way..

For instance, what you, Champ/Joan, say about Gert, ‘she shows herself to be nothing other than a gloating, hate filled, bombastic, egomaniacal bully and through threat and intimidations and misrepresentations she and her sisters did manage to’….okay we have to stop here, for a moment! Gee, Champ, gosh, I think you, or maybe Joan, got mixed up here with whom you were taking about…was that Joan or me that you were talking about? I have to stop and separate you two (Champ and Joan)…like I said you two are spending WAY too much time together.

So let’s tackle a couple of things first…this business of ‘a gloating, hate filled, bombastic, egomanicancal bully and through threat and intimidations and misrepresentations’. My gosh, Champ are you sure you know what you are saying here? Because, man, that describes what Joan is and has been doing! Let’s take it from the top, okay? Sure, now stay with me, Champ/Joan, he/ she/it and all will be clear!

Joan is the one who gloats, because she wrote the book about her life and everyone that came in contact with her. That does not give Joan the right to lie and misrepresent them in a book that Joan maintains is NOT about them…so why would they, us, the birth siblings, be in that book? Champ, hey man, you are her defender, can you talk to her and get her to see reason on this? Joan is ALWAYS saying it’s about her, the adoptee, you know man, mister defender, it’s about the adoptee, so isn’t that GLOATING? How come its NEVER about the birth siblings? Where are we in all of this? Are we always to be subjected to the inner musing of the adoptee, who can create our lives, according to her mind, just as she has create you, Champ, whole cloth out of her mind? So tell me again, Champ/Joan who actually is gloating here?

Then there’s this hate-filled business. Champ/Joan, you really ought to remember that way back in 1981/82, after Joan butted into my family business over ADOPTION, I divorced her and for over 10 years never gave her a thought, and for but a couple of minor contacts between 1992 and 2005 I again had not a thought of her. Shit man, it wasn’t until Joan/Champ wrote that libelous book that I began to be a bit hateful, for shit man, there was no reason for her to do that! Champ…Joan has no right to claim that I am hateful, NOT after she wrote a libelous book. Come on Champ, don’t you see that Joan is conning you too! After all the closeness you two have… she is conning you.

Now really Champ/Joan, I’m a bombastic, egomaniacal bully! I’m the farthest thing from bombastic! Shit man, mister defender I have MEDICAL issues that prevent me from being bombastic! And, my ego doesn’t need Joan Wheeler to sustain itself because she is just a mere flea in the scope of MY WORLD. The person who IS bombastic is Joan! Have you ever read any of her posts? When she is on a ‘high’ she goes on and on and on. And me a bully! No Champ/Joan what that’s called is positive assertiveness! There’s a world of difference between a bully, like Joan, who goes after people who don’t see her point of view and an assertive person, like me, who refuses to allow a liar, like Joan, to walk over me and my family! So Champ if you really are Joan’s defender, real or imagined, I suggest that you know your enemy cause it ain’t me, but it most likely is yourself.

Now on to ‘through threat and intimidations and misrepresentations’…well Champ/Joan I don’t threaten; I act! Huge difference and the same goes for intimidation; if you don’t want me in ‘your face’, then why are you here? I told Joan/Champ years ago, several times, GET OUT OF MY LIFE, and she continues to come back into it and with a fucking book! And she says I intimidate her! I misrepresent things? Tell this to Joan, Mr Champ…the train left the station, why was she NOT UNDER IT? Was that a threat? An intimidation? Did I misrepresent something? How much clearer should I be? Joan Wheeler needs to get lost, permanently and Champ, if you are her defender you better get her out of town, pronto!

And so after Champ/Joan goes on about this business about ‘what’s wrong with Gert’, he/she/it gets side-tracked again and they slip into Joan mode and tells us what is really pissing Joan off. ‘She and her sisters did manage to get Joan’s publisher to discontinue publication of Joan’s book, this shows that she and her other two sisters are incapable of resonable arguement and have no legitmate arguement to begin with.’

Okay, Champ/Joan let’s break that up, into bite size bits, shall we! The truth of the matter is that Joan VIOLATED her contract with the publisher, she lied to them about the truthfulness of the content of the book. It was only Ruth and Gert, who provided, documented evidence, which we placed on the blogs for ALL THE WORLD to see. Once the publishers’ lawyers saw the evidence, read the pages we referenced, went over Joan’s contract, did THEY, not us, pull the book from publication, because they saw the libelous materials that book contained. So if Joan is pissed her book is discontinued she has only herself to blame and only she shall bear any of those consequences. We the birth sisters did not write a libelous book.

Now Champ, old buddy, you know as well as I do, that it is Joan that is incapable of any form of reasonable argument. Come on guy! If you are really defending this sorry excuse of a woman than you have got to know it! All it takes is some small infraction and she’s off like a roman candle! You know her so well, so you say! So no Champ/Joan that argument flew out the window a long time ago. BTW, double check your spell-checker Joan….Champ is having a rough time of it; the correct spelling of the word argument is without the e.

Now that Champ/Joan have told all the sins of Kathy, Ruth, and Gert, we now hear the summaries of our collective actions against poor Joan, who so desperately needs this defender named Champ! Apparently Joan is only NOW beginning to feel the effects of her own actions and she has to blame us for those actions. And while she is at it, Joan gives us sisters powers we didn’t know we had…gosh if I only knew I had such great powers!

Champ/Joan informs us that we sisters ‘achieved their goal of restricting Joan’s right to free speech and we are not content, with that’. Our goal was not to restrict Joan’s right to speech only for her NOT TO LIE. Unfortunately we have NOT obtained the goal. Joan still lies! Joan mistakes lying with freedom of speech, well, Champ if you are her defender, perhaps you can teach her the difference, for you see Joan is correct on one thing here…we are NOT content because she is still lying!

Champ/Joan also says that ‘we continue to twist facts, threaten and harass anyone and everyone who has the audacity to call Joan a friend’ Well I wish I knew Joan’s friends so I could ask them to tell Joan to stop lying! Does Joan really have friends? Wow! I don’t know what facts we have ‘twisted’ perhaps Joan’s version is twisted…Champ you really need to sit down with Joan and get the stories right! I haven’t threaten or harass anyone! If someone like Susan or Lori seem to have taken offense at my informing them of Joan’s lies, that’s their problem not mine. If the truth hurts don’t go after the messenger go after the one who told the lies in the first place. Champ/Joan you really have to have a heart to heart with Joan and tell her to give it up! For Gert and Ruth are not going away.

Now really Champ/Joan you have got to be kidding with this one…that we ‘have even gone so far as trying to have world renowned professionals removed from their positions of employment simply for agreeing with Joan’s positions regarding adoption reform’. Oh I get it now! Joan is on the same level as ‘renowned professionals’ and because they agree with Joan ‘their positions’ are in jeopardy! My!

I had a letter/email exchange with Rene Hoksbergen’s ‘former’ boss, who said that ‘he wished that Hoksbergen had used better judgement, but since Hoksbergen is retired, there was nothing that could be done’. But I will say Champ/Joan that its good to know that Hoksbergen was on the hot seat for awhile after what he did, for Joan, to Kathy! BTW, both the attack upon Kathy, by Hoksbergen, and his forward and review of the libelous book, and his former boss, W. Koops was put on our blogs for all the world to see. So whatever we sisters have done has always been done in the open!

Reality must have finally hit home if all these people are finally stepping away from Joan…they don’t want to have anything to do with her lies but she can’t accept that, because its the sisters fault, wrong! If Joan is getting flack from people it’s probably because people are starting to see that Joan’s stories don’t add up, once they hear the other side of things.

And again, Champ/Joan, you have dropped your ‘cover’, by saying that we sisters are ‘members of this “Gang of Three”‘ that’s just a variation of The Three Sippel Sisters, nice going Champ!

What I don’t understand is why you are ‘defending’ her IF what you say here is true… ‘Unfortunately for them, through the vehicle of their blogs, they show the world how true the facts presented in Joan’s book really are.’ Could you explain that to me, Champ/Joan! If we have PROVEN that Joan and her book is right then why does Joan NEED a defender?

And again, Champ you blew your cover…these words were copped by Joan from my blog ‘More to come. Please stay tuned!’…Joan would NEVER have thought of those phrases and NEVER used them before UNTIL she read them on my blog. I on the other hand have used them since about 1994 when I first started publishing a international quarterly magazine!

Champs says, ‘I know that as soon as this hits the net, I’ll be attacked by at least one of these siblings.’ Be it known that this post is NOT an attack, it is INFORMATION about another attack by Joan upon the birth siblings.

Champs gives guidelines, everyone is welcome to post their comments except the birth siblings. Fine see if I care! But you JOAN you really haven’t fooled anyone with this blog of YOURS.

Now let’s go back to honor. Champ/Joan have these words to say about my blog and honor…

‘After reading that for only a few minutes, I wonder exactly what Gert’s definition of the word “honor” might be. Honor has to do with the higher values, honesty, and the way in which one person treats another. If Gert thinks she’s doing anything but dragging her precious “honor” through the mud, she’s sadly mistaken.’

No, Champ/Joan it is NOT me who is mistaken. Joan has FAILED to understand the purpose of our posts. It is NOT necessarily MINE honor, though it’s there, but its ABOUT MY PARENTS and the lies that Joan Wheeler has told about MY PARENTS in her desire to destroy everything related to adoption. If Joan HAD any honor she would NEVER have written that hateful book and retold lie upon lie about OUR parents. It is that Honor that Joan STOLE and what we birth siblings are restoring.

Here are a few definitions I found for the word/concept of honor;

good name or public esteem: reputation

a keen sense of ethical conduct : integrity <a man of honor>

The dignity accorded to position:

Principled uprightness of character; personal integrity.

honor bound

Under an obligation enforced by the personal integrity of the one obliged:

end.

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  1. No comment!

     

  2. Ruth here –

    I do like what Chaylet says, but Mr. Chimp, you do remember what was said to the High Te’er? “What (Chimp/Joan) says is unimportant, and we do not hear him/her).

    Here is a lesson in civil rights and honor Mr. Chimp – when you slander a person, you have stepped on their civil and human rights. And my civil and human rights are NOT NEGOTIABLE..

    Joan has said in her book and on the internet that I have an arrest record and accused me of computer hacking on my job. – Mr. Chimp, you know all about honor – so enlighten me – when a lie is told, and you have irrefutable proof that it is a lie, who is the wrong-doer? The liar or the person who was lied about?

    If a person’s lie is exposed, and the liar is now faced with the consequences of that lie, who is at fault?

    I am talking to Mr. Chimp as if he is a separate being, but in reality we know that Mr. Chimp IS Joan. Because the whole tirade is all about that Joan didn’t do anything wrong. When in reality, we all know she did. Since it is Joan’s refusal to see that she is in the wrong, always has been in the wrong, she is pissed that her book got pulled. And of course, true to Joan’s nature, she can’t admit that it was BECAUSE OF HER OWN WORDS AND ACTIONS THAT CAUSED THE BOOK TO BE PULLED, that she is blaming us, her sisters. No, all we did was write a complaint to the publisher. They could have looked at our complaint, and said “No, Joan did nothing wrong.” But instead, they examined our complaint and it took them 4 months to do so. and in the end, it was deemed that our complaints were valid. And that sticks in Joan’s craw. She got found out! So Mr. Chimp, take your defense of her book and shove it. – What is it that you fools don’t get? In her book and on the internet, Joan says that the ONE AND ONLY ORDER OF PROTECTION SHE GOT AGAINST ME WAS FOR ONE YEAR. And I scanned the actual court document and posted it on my blog and the f’ing piece of paper from the City Court of Buffalo says SIX MONTHS. — Six months does not equal one year. If Joan cannot understand that – if you Mr. Chimp cannot understand that – then I suggest you go back to school and learn how to read and do basic arithmetic. I hate to break it to you fools – there are TWELVE MONTHS IN ONE YEAR. Half of 12 is 6. Half a year is six months.

    Now Mr. Chimp – another lesson in honor – you sir, lack the courage of your convictions if you cannot stand up, say what is in your heart and NOT GIVE US YOUR NAME. For that is the heart of honor. you have none. You have no courage, you have no honor. Again, as what was told to the High Te’er – “What (Mr. Chimp) has said is unimportant and we do not hear him.” But since we know that Mr. Chimp is really Joan, let’s just drop the charade now. But I will go along with the game from time to time.

    I will now address the rest of this to Joan, for it is all Joan anyway – so hypocrite, after putting that little quote from Dr. Wayne Dyer about not harming people and self-actualization, you go out of your way to call me Ruthie. And yes – as Gert pointed out you slipped when you as Mr. Chimp started the post out by calling me Ruth, then switched to Ruthie. Like the school-yard bully here, now you’re sticking your tongue out at me? “Nyah, nyah, RuthIE.” Oh grow the f up.

    I want to quote something here from Mr. Chimp – “As these two blogs have been out there for years, one can only judge Ruthie’s mental stability for themselves. Personally, I pity her, and would hope that at some point, she would realize that something might not be quite right with her and seek the psychological therapy she needs. No mentally stable individual carries such hate, let alone acts on it, for as long a time as she has. ”

    Oh my goodness. Mr. Chimp – you are so clever. You might want to take a good look at your friend Joan. She is the one who is the hater. She hates my guts. Always has and always will. As for mental stability – your friend Joan has none. In her ownbook, she describes herself burning her own children’s toys and pictures in the living room in front of them. What normal person who is mentally stable does that? What a sadistic bitch! To burn a child’s artwork, toys, and their own baby and toddler photos IN FRONT OF THEM! And in the middle of the living room where the house could burn down around them? So Mr. Chimp – take your pscyhological evaluation and direct at the person who needs it – at Joan
    .
    oh – we see another giveaway that Mr. Chimp is in reality – Joan – “as these two blogs have been out there for years..” No, mine has been out there for just over 2 years, and Gert’s less then ONE year. Actually – 10 MONTHS. – again, Joan, can’t you count? — ahem. Joan loves to exagerate. And since Mr. Chimp is exagerating here – well – it doesn’t take a degree in rocket science to see the writing on the wall – that Mr. Chimp is Joan – what a fool.

    Now as for lecturing me for the length of time that I have invested in my blog – just over TWO years – Joan’s book took her OVER 25 YEARS. That’s 25 years with multiple drafts, of hate directed at anyone in her life that ever pissed her off. – And Mr. Chimp – if my posts are mind-boggling, that’s because I am writing ABOUT JOAN AND HER BOOK! And yes, my subject material IS mind-boggling, but it boogles the mind that a person (Joan) can write such a filthy lying book, lie to the publisher, and then can’t accept the fact that it was through her own fault that the book got pulled from publication! It boggles the mind that Joan reports something – like that order of protection – being in duration of one year, having the actual court document that IRREFUTABLY says SIX MONTHS – making her statement of it being one year WRONG – and she can’t admit that she lied. And she keeps saying that she told the truth. When in fact, I proved that she did lie.

    So now I must close. Because contrary to what Mr. Chimp believes, I do have a life. If I think of anything else to write, I shall return. — oh oh – Did I write Mr. Chimp? oh shit. I meant Champ.. well, Champ is a DOG’s name, not a chimpanzee. Oh, my mistake. But let this be a lesson in honor to you fools – and make no mistake about this when questioning Ruthy’s honor and integrity. Don’t confuse someone’s abiltiy to throw shit back in the face of the person who originally threw it with dishonor, for honor absolutely does dictate that this happens. And yes, I DO stand up for myself and I throw no punches in what I say or write. If one can’t take the heat – get out of my kitchen. But having said that, I am also the type of person that when I make a mistake, I own up to it. Unlike Joan, who gets her mistakes thrown at her and she refuses to be woman enough to take her shit back.”Oh, no, I didn’t lie. I don’t know anything about a court document that says the order of protection was for six months. that’s a, um, a different reality. Yeah, that’s it. – that court document came from a parallel universe. See, in THIS universe, THIS reality, the order of protection was for one year.” – uh, huh, that’s Joan’s story and she’s sticking to it.

    So I must now apologize for addressing the champion Champ as a chimp. And address Champ correctly and offer a token of my thoughts on this whole ridiculous nonsense.
    C’mere Champ! C’mon boy, got a MilkBone for you – ruff! ruff!

    ha ha HA – THANKS FOR MAKING MY DAY. OH MY GOSH THIS IS ALL SO FUNNY.

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  1. No comment!

  2. Ruth here –

    I do like what Chaylet says, but Mr. Chimp, you do remember what was said to the High Te’er? “What (Chimp/Joan) says is unimportant, and we do not hear him/her).

    Here is a lesson in civil rights and honor Mr. Chimp – when you slander a person, you have stepped on their civil and human rights. And my civil and human rights are NOT NEGOTIABLE..

    Joan has said in her book and on the internet that I have an arrest record and accused me of computer hacking on my job. – Mr. Chimp, you know all about honor – so enlighten me – when a lie is told, and you have irrefutable proof that it is a lie, who is the wrong-doer? The liar or the person who was lied about?

    If a person’s lie is exposed, and the liar is now faced with the consequences of that lie, who is at fault?

    I am talking to Mr. Chimp as if he is a separate being, but in reality we know that Mr. Chimp IS Joan. Because the whole tirade is all about that Joan didn’t do anything wrong. When in reality, we all know she did. Since it is Joan’s refusal to see that she is in the wrong, always has been in the wrong, she is pissed that her book got pulled. And of course, true to Joan’s nature, she can’t admit that it was BECAUSE OF HER OWN WORDS AND ACTIONS THAT CAUSED THE BOOK TO BE PULLED, that she is blaming us, her sisters. No, all we did was write a complaint to the publisher. They could have looked at our complaint, and said “No, Joan did nothing wrong.” But instead, they examined our complaint and it took them 4 months to do so. and in the end, it was deemed that our complaints were valid. And that sticks in Joan’s craw. She got found out! So Mr. Chimp, take your defense of her book and shove it. – What is it that you fools don’t get? In her book and on the internet, Joan says that the ONE AND ONLY ORDER OF PROTECTION SHE GOT AGAINST ME WAS FOR ONE YEAR. And I scanned the actual court document and posted it on my blog and the f’ing piece of paper from the City Court of Buffalo says SIX MONTHS. — Six months does not equal one year. If Joan cannot understand that – if you Mr. Chimp cannot understand that – then I suggest you go back to school and learn how to read and do basic arithmetic. I hate to break it to you fools – there are TWELVE MONTHS IN ONE YEAR. Half of 12 is 6. Half a year is six months.

    Now Mr. Chimp – another lesson in honor – you sir, lack the courage of your convictions if you cannot stand up, say what is in your heart and NOT GIVE US YOUR NAME. For that is the heart of honor. you have none. You have no courage, you have no honor. Again, as what was told to the High Te’er – “What (Mr. Chimp) has said is unimportant and we do not hear him.” But since we know that Mr. Chimp is really Joan, let’s just drop the charade now. But I will go along with the game from time to time.

    I will now address the rest of this to Joan, for it is all Joan anyway – so hypocrite, after putting that little quote from Dr. Wayne Dyer about not harming people and self-actualization, you go out of your way to call me Ruthie. And yes – as Gert pointed out you slipped when you as Mr. Chimp started the post out by calling me Ruth, then switched to Ruthie. Like the school-yard bully here, now you’re sticking your tongue out at me? “Nyah, nyah, RuthIE.” Oh grow the f up.

    I want to quote something here from Mr. Chimp – “As these two blogs have been out there for years, one can only judge Ruthie’s mental stability for themselves. Personally, I pity her, and would hope that at some point, she would realize that something might not be quite right with her and seek the psychological therapy she needs. No mentally stable individual carries such hate, let alone acts on it, for as long a time as she has. ”

    Oh my goodness. Mr. Chimp – you are so clever. You might want to take a good look at your friend Joan. She is the one who is the hater. She hates my guts. Always has and always will. As for mental stability – your friend Joan has none. In her ownbook, she describes herself burning her own children’s toys and pictures in the living room in front of them. What normal person who is mentally stable does that? What a sadistic bitch! To burn a child’s artwork, toys, and their own baby and toddler photos IN FRONT OF THEM! And in the middle of the living room where the house could burn down around them? So Mr. Chimp – take your pscyhological evaluation and direct at the person who needs it – at Joan
    .
    oh – we see another giveaway that Mr. Chimp is in reality – Joan – “as these two blogs have been out there for years..” No, mine has been out there for just over 2 years, and Gert’s less then ONE year. Actually – 10 MONTHS. – again, Joan, can’t you count? — ahem. Joan loves to exagerate. And since Mr. Chimp is exagerating here – well – it doesn’t take a degree in rocket science to see the writing on the wall – that Mr. Chimp is Joan – what a fool.

    Now as for lecturing me for the length of time that I have invested in my blog – just over TWO years – Joan’s book took her OVER 25 YEARS. That’s 25 years with multiple drafts, of hate directed at anyone in her life that ever pissed her off. – And Mr. Chimp – if my posts are mind-boggling, that’s because I am writing ABOUT JOAN AND HER BOOK! And yes, my subject material IS mind-boggling, but it boogles the mind that a person (Joan) can write such a filthy lying book, lie to the publisher, and then can’t accept the fact that it was through her own fault that the book got pulled from publication! It boggles the mind that Joan reports something – like that order of protection – being in duration of one year, having the actual court document that IRREFUTABLY says SIX MONTHS – making her statement of it being one year WRONG – and she can’t admit that she lied. And she keeps saying that she told the truth. When in fact, I proved that she did lie.

    So now I must close. Because contrary to what Mr. Chimp believes, I do have a life. If I think of anything else to write, I shall return. — oh oh – Did I write Mr. Chimp? oh shit. I meant Champ.. well, Champ is a DOG’s name, not a chimpanzee. Oh, my mistake. But let this be a lesson in honor to you fools – and make no mistake about this when questioning Ruthy’s honor and integrity. Don’t confuse someone’s abiltiy to throw shit back in the face of the person who originally threw it with dishonor, for honor absolutely does dictate that this happens. And yes, I DO stand up for myself and I throw no punches in what I say or write. If one can’t take the heat – get out of my kitchen. But having said that, I am also the type of person that when I make a mistake, I own up to it. Unlike Joan, who gets her mistakes thrown at her and she refuses to be woman enough to take her shit back.”Oh, no, I didn’t lie. I don’t know anything about a court document that says the order of protection was for six months. that’s a, um, a different reality. Yeah, that’s it. – that court document came from a parallel universe. See, in THIS universe, THIS reality, the order of protection was for one year.” – uh, huh, that’s Joan’s story and she’s sticking to it.

    So I must now apologize for addressing the champion Champ as a chimp. And address Champ correctly and offer a token of my thoughts on this whole ridiculous nonsense.
    C’mere Champ! C’mon boy, got a MilkBone for you – ruff! ruff!

    ha ha HA – THANKS FOR MAKING MY DAY. OH MY GOSH THIS IS ALL SO FUNNY.

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