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Joan Wheeler outsmarter herself…again…May 16, 2012
Thinking that she has ‘it all under control’ and can browbeat and intimidate her sisters, Joan as halforphan (HO) and Pilgrim, decided to put in a complaint to the moderators of the family circle site and guess what? it backfired on her! She shot off her own foot!
Taking it from the top, when we last reported, Pilgram had ‘nothing more to say’, or so we thought. I had left a comment on a thread that HO overrode by ignoring it and just continued on with her attempts at browbeating a poster. That should have been left alone, but no, HO in her guise, of her alter-ego Pilgrim, decided days later, to attack me. Because, Joan Wheeler, aka halforphan56 and her imaginary friend Pilgrim could NOT allow me to have the last word; that would never do! and so she/he/it left this comment.
eldestbirthsibling seems to be at it again. Rather than contributing anything constructive to this thread, all she can do is whine and complain about her sister, halforphan56. eldestbirthsibling was never adopted, hence has no experience in what it’s like to BE adopted, yet for over 30 years, she’s been belittling her sister for her experience as an adoptee. Yes, that’s 30 YEARS? halforphan56 has a lifetime of experience in being adopted, and has a right to her feelings, just as those who advocate adoption have a right to theirs. No matter your point of view on the subject of adoption, it would be instructive to visit eldestbirthsibling’s blogs. Rest assures, most of the “facts” presented there are twisted, but the hate, yes HATE, is genuine. If you enjoy foul language, viciousness, paranoia, spiced with hearty doses of paranoia and egomania, you’ll enjoy the blogs thoroughly. If, on the other hand, you would like to investigate all aspects of adoption, I can recommend http://www.adoptivefamiliescircle.com/?URL=http://forbiddenfamily.net/.Adoption is a serious step in the lives of all involved. This nastiness being carried out by halforphan56’s sisters is an example of what adoption CAN do to both families involved. I’m sure you can find other outcomes, but it’s best to investigate ALL sides of the issue before making a final decission. Posted by Pilgrim1003 on May 14, 2012 at 8:45pm
and of course I answered it, May15, with this….
Well now, Pilgrim…seems that you can’t seem to ‘let it go’…you just can’t resist yourself can you halforphan (HO)? Instead of acknowledging the last poster’s comment, halforphan/pilgrim feels that she must go on the attack, again, to her first VICTIM…which is me…an adoptive mother. A typo in my post apparently sets you off, sorry for the typo but I am an adoptive mother. Pilgrim/HO attacked me on another thread because I stated I adopted my son. So if I am whining and complaining then so be it for I have been a victim of HO/Pilgrim’s hate against all things adopted; as my post said.
Seems to me that I did indeed contribute something constructive to this thread; pointing out that halforphan (HO) can and will interfer with another’s RIGHT to adopt; it has NOTHING to do with feelings. Personal recommendations, of person, product or service, is the best one can find, even on a message board.
Halforphan you really ought to stop hiding behind this figment of your imagination, as well as the others; it is so obvious that it is you and only you. Most of the words in your post here have been placed on your various blogs aimed at your birth siblings. You really must think that people are stupid and can’t figure it out for themselves for you continue to place our blog addresses on your own blogs aimed against us. So be it, my blogs are on my profile and there are at least four new posts, in the past week, ANSWERING all of HO/Pilgrim’s accusations against me, that I said I would answer on my blog. So why Pilgrim/halforphan are you bringing this here? Why have you not answered the topic of this thread?
You are only making a fool of yourself! In your anger at being an adoptee you continue to point everyone to your own lack of good judgement. In you persistence in claiming that Pilgrim is NOT you, you are not and ‘he’ is not doing you and your cause, for outlawing adoption, any good, for Pilgrim as presented, by HO, ‘he’ is no gentleman and certainly not any worthwhile female would want ‘him’ around them for one second.
Knowing Joan Wheeler as we do, this was just too much for her, not only did I called her by the initials HO I also pulled the curtain away from Pilgrim and called her a fool! So what did she do? She placed a complaint against Ruth and Gert with the moderators of the site! Smart move! yep, she enlisted a couple of other adoptees who were on that pro-adoption site and on the forum for angry adoptees to submit complaints against us.
So the next day, both Ruth and I get an email telling us that we are warned against insulting on the threads. We both response and place complaints against halforphan and pilgrim. Within hours, all four of us were banned from the circle site and all our posts were removed!
Let’s hear it! Ruth and Gert were kicked off the site! HO and Pilgrim were kicked off the site!
This idiot, Joan Wheeler, doesn’t get that she is her worst enemy; she just can’t help herself! And, as our blog stats have shown, that night and then next day, our stats were very high, all coming from the angry adult adoptees advocating for change! This group has moles that go to pro-adoption sites and browbeat people, but, when they encounter JW’s birth siblings, that put a monkey wrench in their works.
So miss-hot-shot, you shot your self in your own foot, by putting a complaint against us, when in fact, it was her own words against us and your, and pilgrim’s continued attacks against us, in particular this last one, which you could have just left alone, but decide you must have the last word…well, you got the last word, you got us all kicked out.
See you around, honey
“Pilgrim” says: “it’s best to investigate ALL sides of the issue before making a final decission.” and ” it would be instructive to visit eldestbirthsibling’s blogs. Rest assures, most of the “facts” presented there are twisted,”
okay, first – how do we KNOW that Pilgrim is really Joan – because she just gave herself away again! Here, Pilgrim is telling the reader at that site to visit eldestbirthsiblings blogS. – PLURAL – um eldestbirthsibling aka Gert, has only ONE blog. This is Joan’s exagerating AGAIN. She keeps getting her facts wrong. AND look at the word “decission.” There are two S’s in there. That is another peculiar way of Joan – she misspells things and the way she misspells things – on her blog, on the adoptee forum, on various places on the internet – are all the same. So give up the nonsense that Pilgrim is a man called Brian or Chimp – Joan, we know it’s you. WE are not as stupid as YOU.
Second, Pilgrim advises Gert to “investigate ALL sides of the issue before making a final decision, and says that most of the “facts” presented on Gert’s blog are twisted.”
Well, now, Pilgrim, why dont’ you take your own advice and take the time to investigate ALL sides here and get to the bottom of the issue between Joan and us. And, wrong, buddy NONE of the facts on either Gert’s blog (singular) or MY blog (singular, relating to Joan) ARE TWISTED.- Again, Joan says in her book and on the internet that she got an order of protection against me for ONE YEAR. And guess what buddy? I have scanned and posted to my blog – the actual court document pertaining to that court decree. And guess what it says dear Pilgrim? – IT STATES THAT THE DURATION OF THE ORDER OF PROTECTION WAS FOR SIX MONTHS, in the year 1993, February 9, 1993 to August 9, 1993.
AND further, in the year 1999, when I took Joan to court for harassment, actual court documents which showed ALL previous court cases between Joan and myself showed NO OTHER ORDERS OF PROTECTIONS. And Joan NEVER obtained orders or protection agains Gert or Kathy. So much for her bullshit lies saying that she obtained “multiple orders of protection against her sisters and they were for one year.”
AND dearest Pilgrim, I have scanned and posted ALL COURT DOCUMENTS PERTAINING TO JOAN AND MYSELF ON MY BLOG.
So, if YOU ain’t gonna RESEARCH your shit – SHUT YOUR STUPID MOUTH – PILGRIM, AKA JOAN WHEELER.
Also, I have scanned actual handwritten letters signed by Joan Wheeler with their envelopes with her signed return address, postmarked from Tonawanda, where she lives. I have scanned the court documents with HER signature on it – all signatures match. NO FACTS PRESENTED ON MY BLOG OR GERT’S BLOG HAVE BEEN TWISTED.
The only twisting occurs in Joan’s idiotic diseased mind, that dreams up this Pilgrim buddy. Who does not exist. Put your money where your mouth is – PROVE YOU’RE A SEPARATE ENTITY FROM JOAN. I WANNA SEE YOUR VALID DRIVERS LICENSE. post documented proof of your existence and identity and I wanna see in person some man named Brian – so I can show him in person the bullshit letters Joan wrote to me and prove to “him” that he himself is a hypocrite, BY NOT RESEARCHING HIS FACTS AND SEEING ALL SIDES OF AN ISSUE BEFORE CONDEMNING US.
“HE” THINKS JOAN IS A SWEET PERSON AND SAYS HE READ HER BOOK? He must have been doing it while sleepwalking, because he missed the part where she writes about screaming “fuck you” to her adoptive mother and shoved her finger in her adoptive mother’s face. – oh how sweet! Or the time she took all her children’s toys, and photos, and school artwork and burned them in the middle of the living room IN FRONT OF HER CHILDREN. – I don’t call that sweet – I call that being A SADISTIC BITCH.