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Once again we see how Joan Wheeler puts her own spin on issues of/about adoption …

by on July 27, 2012

and…when asked directly to explain, fully, her reasoning and objections, or when a ‘happy conclusion’ is presented…Joan doesn’t answer and/or disappears…because she cannot accept the possibility that adoption can be a good thing and that people actually ACCEPT adoption.

 My comments follow…first the internet news site/article, then the comments.  NOTE sometimes the site will not show all the comments, sometimes it does, go figure…but…I did add on, at the end of this post, my comment as it appears on the site. 

 http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_07_05/Siberians-bar-Americans-from-adopting-Russian-children/

 MPs of the Kemerovo Region in South Siberia have passed a bill according to which Americans have no right to  adopt children on the territory of the region. Exceptions are allowed only for close relatives who have documents proving kinship. The regional parliament has information that three children from the Kemerovo Region have died in foreign families since 1990, two of them in the US. In 2011, an American adoptive father molested a girl who was adopted in the Kemerovo Region. According to Russian officials, at least 17 children adopted by Americans have died in the US over the last few years. In this connection, Moscow has repeatedly urged the US authorities to toughen the legislation and control, so as to prevent such incidents. Russia and the US signed an agreement on cooperation in the adoption of children in July 2011. RIA

  Joan M Wheeler…says…

The end of adoption as we know it is slowly taking hold. One by one, countries are banning adoption. Never give up.  July 14 at 12:35 pm

MO…says…. Why is adoption bad? July 14 at 2:21pm

 Joan Wheeler…says…

Hi M… I’m surprised I have to tell YOU the answer! Unnatural separation of mother and child at birth is the first offense. Women have been (and are still in many states’ prisons and other countries,, but it happened here too) chained to the bed giving birth, blindfolded, drugged, de-babied at the moment of birth, and humiliated by nuns and nurses while giving birth. Crimes of kidnappiing at birth also affect the baby who needs mother. Mothers’ breasts were bound too dry up milk, now given drugs. Mothers go on to suffer PTSD, many unable to have other children and suffer secondary infertility. Adoptees often develop PTSD,, depression due to the primal wound of separation, many have identity confusion, and go from one home to another. Legally, all adoptees’ birth certificates are sealed upon the finalization of adoption and a false birth certificate is then issued, forcing the adoptee to have false ID for life. Not even the grown children of adoptees can access these records. Intercountry adoption is human trafficking, babies bought and sold, racial tensions, racial child in white world, many are going abck to homeland. Korean adoptees returning to S Korea ended adoptions there last year. Holland, too. much more… July 15 at 7:26pm·

Joan M Wheeler…says… guardianship if the child needs a home, family preservation and kinbship are better solutions! July 15 7:27pm

SD… says…by guardianship, family preservation and kinship, do you mean placing the child with the next of kin? if so, what if, hypothetically speaking the child has no other fit family member to be placed with? .. for example if a child was born to parents with mental illness and addicted to illegal drugs and the system found the parents unfit to raise to their child. now, the mother is african american and the father being caucasian, the mother is alone her only family once consisted of her mother (deceased) and her brother (also deceased) and the fathers family being racist and not wanting anything to do with this child..this child has no other option. What do you suggest then? July 18 at 4:51am·

MO… says…Those are many horrific realities, Joan, but I’m not sure that the term “adoption” is the best way to bracket them. human slavery, factory farming/breeding and selling of babies, are one thing. not knowing one’s parents can be traumatic (although as some adoptees have found, meeting them can be equally if not more traumatic). But there are also cases in which a mother finds herself pregnant with a baby which for any one of a million reasons she can’t care for – and who gives her child over to the care of loving parents who cannot conceive. Although my records are sealed, I am the beneficiary of the latter scenario. I don’t know why I was given up, but I know I was cared for and supported. Who knows – I might have grown up on the streets somewhere had I not been adopted. July 18 at 1:48pm

Gert here…now of course Joan may STILL answer these comments…but I no longer see them on the news site/article so I doubt it, but if I do, see more, I shall update this, for now…

What policies other countries do or do not do, with regards to adoption, has really no bearing on what is or is not the policy in the US. Certainly, there’s abuse in any system, in any country, that would alter policies with another country. What I got from that news release was that Russia was banning adoptions FROM AMERICANS not that it was banning adoptions! There is a huge difference here! As usual Joan Wheeler jumps to conclusions.

Joan see only want she wants to see. And is surprised, that someone, she knows, who is adopted, should ask her ‘why is adoption bad’. Joan wastes no time in, an ever so slightly, but none the less admonishment to the person, that he ‘ought to know the answer’! Her answer of course! She then gives a litany of horrors that only represent a section of adoption and then her blanket solution to the abolishment of adoption… guardianship, family preservation and kinship!

Then another asks about some circumstances where guardianship, family preservation and kinship would not work! And then MO points to what I see…the litany of horrors does NOT totally encompass every reason for why adoption is a right, reasonable and happy solution. He furthermore points out his own circumstance saying…I know I was cared for and supported. Who knows – I might have grown up on the streets somewhere had I not been adopted

Joan Wheeler refuses to accept the positive aspects of adoption and that anyone is happy to be adopted.

Joan’s ideas of guardianship, family preservation and kinship were NOT available to our father, before, during and after our mother’s death. The ONLY OPTION our father had for the infant Doris/Joan was ADOPTION. The real reason Joan hates adoption is because she was ABUSED BY HER ADOPTED PARENTS…but she will not admit that, instead she continues to hate adoption and everyone and everything that is pro-adoption.

AND I just left the following comment on the discussions.

gertmcqueen (signed in using yahoo)

Once again we see how Joan Wheeler puts her own spin on issues of/about adoption ….
and…when asked directly to explain, fully, her reasoning and objections, or when a ‘happy conclusion’ is presented…Joan doesn’t answer and/or disappears…because she cannot accept the possibility that adoption can be a good thing and that people actually ACCEPT adoption.birthsisters blogs tell the rest of the story @.

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com
http://ruthsippelpace.wordpress.com

 

  • gertmcqueen (signed in using yahoo)
    Once again we see how Joan Wheeler puts her own spin on issues of/about adoption ….
    and…when asked directly to explain, fully, her reasoning and objections, or when a ‘happy conclusion’ is presented…Joan doesn’t answer and/or disappears…because she cannot accept the possibility that adoption can be a good thing and that people actually ACCEPT adoption.

    birthsisters blogs tell the rest of the story @.

    https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com
    http://ruthsippelpace.wordpress.com

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