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Watch out! Take cover! #Joan Wheeler is on Yahoo News!!

by on December 4, 2013

She’s really hitting the bottom of the barrel, of social-media sites, to get her so-called crusade, to end adoption, heard.

BUT BEFORE WE CONTINUE HERE’S AN 

UPDATE January 2016; as older posts are being seen I’m updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler says about me and family. After the first book was pulled from publication by the publisher, May 2011, she has ‘self-published’ yet again, her ‘story’, NOW called ‘duped by adoption’. There is NOTHING in it for adoption reform, for she is totally against adoption and her two families. To learn more see…

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoption1

NOW BACK TO THIS POST

For the most part, the people that read and comment on most of the popular social-media sites don’t really give a shit about the story. To them it’s mostly about being able to ‘give’ their opinion, because, in today’s world, there, on news stories, they can. But they do NOT give a shit about any ‘cause’ but only that they are ABLE to voice their opinions. This certainly is neither the best way nor positive way to get ‘your’ message out there.

No one really can get a real clear picture, let alone make any real CHANGE, by reading and commenting on news stories. The place for REAL CHANGE is in the legislature…where they make the laws. But Joan is too ineffectual to pursue those avenues. And, those that are effective are distancing themselves from Joan, the crusader. Joan is mistaken that by ‘educating’ the masses, she can abolish adoption. The masses DON’T WANT TO BE EDUCATED. The masses don’t need Joan to tell them that adoption is wrong and evil. There are too many children in the world that BENEFIT from adoption. In any event…

From Joan’s tweet feed I see that she keeps posting news stories from Yahoo news.

Joan Wheeler ‏@forbiddenfamily23 Nov

National Adoption Day: 150 Los Angeles foster kids adopted http://news.yahoo.com/video/national-adoption-day-150-los-011624460.html?soc_src=mediacontentsharebuttons … via @YahooNews

Joan Wheeler ‏@forbiddenfamily16 Nov

Ohio parents turn selves in on abandonment charges http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-parents-turn-selves-abandonment-charges-031738965.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory … via @YahooNews

Finally one day I decide to see what it’s all about. It did NOT take me long to find her! She never wavers or changes her story. She only changes her name…now it is…adopteefedup. How imaginative! Who else, but Joan, would broadcast her ‘fedup…ness’ of being an adoptee!!

Most of her long-winded comments are ‘recycled’ from her, now pulled from publication, that libelous book ‘Forbidden Family’. Also, if you chose to read her comments, take close note at the ever-presence ‘I know more than you’ and the condemning of other people’s knowledge, or lack of such.

Here a couple pulled out to show them in all their glory;

the Registrar of Vital Statistics actually commits perjury (legally because this is adoption)

I know a great deal of this topic as I have been involved in the adoption reform

Do you know exactly what happens in adoption? Do you have life experience being an adoptee

If you have no idea of the legal ramifications behind the paperwork and legal issues surrounding adoption, I suggest you take your uneducated opinions and stuff them in your behind. This is the kind of ignorance society believes

Re-read what I wrote above

Learn the law in all 50 states. I have. That’s why I am spreading the word so people know the truth about adoption. It is people like you who spread ignorance.

Adoptive parents clearly are not in step with current extensive available resources on life-long problems brought on by being adopted.

And so it goes…the great and wonderful wizard of adoption reform Joan Wheeler, now ‘adopteefedup’ has spoken…and oh…ignore that person behind the curtain!!

Here then are the comments of interest on the 150 kids adopted story. Note the numbers are thumbs up/down, some did not show up either, but it’s interesting to note that ‘adopteefedup’ got a lot of thumbs DOWN…you would have to go to the sites to see the correctness of those numbers.

adopteefedup 3 days ago 7  3

People need to re-think this social idea of adopting their own grandchildren. The truth is that the child’s actual place in the family will be changed. Her mother will become her sister, her grandmother will become her mother. All family relationships will be changed legally. Her birth certificate will be sealed – permanently. She will never have the legal right to obtain a certify copy of her real birth certificate again. At the finalization of adoption – a scene we see here – the court judge sends orders to the State’s Vital Statistics office to have a new, amended, birth certificate issued to replace the actual birth certificate. The child is renamed. What people do not know about adoption is that the Registrar of Vital Statistics actually commits perjury (legally because this is adoption) by knowingly creating false facts on a government issued new birth certificate. He then signs the document, and places the State’s raised seal on the new birth certificate thus certifying that the facts on the document are true. They are not. The child named was not born to the parents named. For a factual document, this should be an adoption certificate, but that is not done. Every single adoptee in America is issued a false birth certificate immediately upon finalization of adoption. The better action to do to provide children with parental figures in social care is to provide for legal guardianship. This protects the child’s natural born identity, place in the family, and his right to self determination. We need to stop this practice of sealing adoptees’ birth certificates and stop issuing false birth certificates for every adoptee. This must be on a federal level.

adopteefedup 3 days ago 3 0

Abortion has nothing to do with this topic. … I do not have a problem with grandparents loving and caring for their grandchildren. I did not say this, you did. Grandparents can love and care for their grandchildren without legally adopting them. They can, and many do, obtain legal guardianship for their grandchildren instead of adopting them. As I said, guardianship protects the child’s true place in the family, and, it protects the child’s actual birth certificate. I know a great deal of this topic as I have been involved in the adoption reform community since the 1970s. Do you know exactly what happens in adoption? Do you have life experience being an adoptee banned by law to obtain a birth certificate that the government confiscated purely because of adoption and replaced it with a false document? If you have no idea of the legal ramifications behind the paperwork and legal issues surrounding adoption, I suggest you take your uneducated opinions and stuff them in your behind. This is the kind of ignorance society believes. Glorification of a legal process that strips a child of her birth name and her actual place in a family, or declares strangers as legal parents and states that that child is now born to these strangers, is a form of magical thinking. You may not care what a piece of paper says, but millions of adoptees do. We have been fighting these injustices since 1953 when Jean Paton founded Orphan Voyage and 1973 when Florence Fisher founded Adoptees Liberty Movement Association. There are other national organizations too: The American Adoption Congress, and Americans for Open Records, and Truth and Reconciliation in Adoption (TRIA). We are lobbying around the USA to educate our legislators to unseal our birth certificates and restore our civil rights that were taken from us via state laws enacted in 1930 that sealed our real birth certificates and replaced them with new ones to simulate our rebirths to our new parents. Re-read what I wrote above. Restore adoptees’ civil rights to our sealed and real birth certificates and stop issuing false birth certificates. Issue truthful adoption certificates when a child is adopted. Keep all records open to the parties named on the documents and prevent the general public access to private documents. Open adoptions are social arrangements, not legal ones. Open adoptions are not enforceable and often adoptive parents reject natural parents’ visitation with the children. Open adoption still strips the adoptee of their real birth certificate and replaces it with a new – false – birth certificate. All open adoptions result in permanent sealing of the adoptee’s birth certificate. Open adoption does not mean the records are open. Learn the law in all 50 states. I have. That’s why I am spreading the word so people know the truth about adoption. It is people like you who spread ignorance.

Gert 2 days ago 0 5

this individual is totally anti-adoption…she violated my parental rights when I adopted my son

Sunny 2 days ago 1

Something tells me adopteefedup is having a hard time with just feeling Love. Anger issues need addressing, Geez let it go. Move on and heal. Wishing you comfort and healing

Gert 2 days ago1

adopteefedup spend 30 years writing libelous book against both families and goes on all social medias looking to beat people up who adopt, she wants to get rid of adoption.

And here are the comments of interest on the Ohio parents’ story

layerlee 10 days ago 2 40

Maybe this story will help in discussing how children with mental problems can receive help. When multi-generational families lived together did parents have more help with problem children? Not all children are angels. Some parents lack the resources to deal with extensive problems. The bottom line is that this child may need help and the parents do not have the skills or resources to help. Hopefully, he can be placed in a safe and loving environment before he choses a path of negative actions.

chris m 10 days ago 7 5

Naw. It should help with bad parents being able to adopt. Nothing wrong with this child. Having #$%$ parents, it doesn’t matter the child’s frame of mind.

justme 9 days ago 2

These parents are wealthy and could get the child help.

adopteefedup 9 days ago 11 3

I’m with you, Chris M. A child displaying this type of behavior problems is reacting to abnormal stress. That stress is a combination of stresses: the stress of being adopted, stress of the adoptive parents, stress of a school system unable to cope with larger post adoption issues, stress of growing up not having genetic mirroring, stress of being abandoned at birth, stress of being raised by strangers, stress of wondering about natural parents, stress of what ever else. Why pick on the kid? Adoptive parents clearly are not in step with current extensive available resources on life-long problems brought on by being adopted.

sheliaw 9 days ago 0 10

@chris m We can’t say that nothing is wrong with the child. A child that threatens his family with a knife has problems. I can’t say what I would do with a child that is threatening my life and the lives of my other young children as well. It is an impossible situation. How do protect a child from someone in their home? You can’t watch them all the time.

dreamweaver 9 days ago 0 4

You take them to a child psychiatrist and start testing. Adopteefedup doesn’t know what the problem is, no one does yet. Our neighbor send his son to military school to straighten him out, and several months later he was found to have a brain tumor that affected his behavior. His parents have yet to

CK3 9 days ago 4

Perhaps it’s not the adopted parents. It’s a proven fact that mental disorders are genetic.

Gert 2 days ago 0 0

adopteefedup knows what she’s talking about…that’s why she is against adoption BUT she neglects to tell everyone about her own negative behaviors to family…like a libelous book, violating my parental rights when I adopted my son, and other behavioral issues.If she is stressed is needs to get off beating people up over adoption

Gert 2 days ago 0 0

to CK3 in the case of our family the only one that displays any form of mental disorders is adopteefedup…she was adopted due to the death of our mother and she obviously had some serious issues in her childhood.

end of comments…

And so ‘adopteefedup’ lives another day to fight another battle…will SOMEONE please do something…

End…

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One Comment
  1. Reblogged this on Refuting a Book of Lies: Forbidden Family — and commented:

    watching out for where Joan throws her weight around

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