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When others adopt #JoanMWheeler ‘volunteers’ to ‘advise’ them against doing so. Why? because she’s been #dupedbyadoption…
and she’s the great crusader against the evils of adoption on the globe!
Most people would call Joan’s voluntary advising INTERFERENCE. She just can not keep her nose out of other people’s business.
On this link..
Joan says… There are extenuating circumstances – oh, yes, he is their father, but there are private reasons he is not involed in his daughters’ lives.
And D N says…Joan Mary Wheeler And those private reasons are?They superceede the death of the mother?
And Joan says… Obviously I am not at liberty to discuss the details. And neither are the family who adopted the girls and neither is the reporter. Yes, there are extenuatiing circumstances concerning the father that supercede the death of the mother. The father was not named in this article for private reasons.
…. NOW, if you click on Joan’s icon on the thread you get directed to her facebook and can see the entire dialogue…
and Joan Mary Wheeler comments…
A friend of mine is a close friend of the deceased mother, Elizabeth Diamond. When she told me of the mother’s death and the impending adoption, I volunteered to help in the only way I knew: to give advice against the adoption. Why? Because I didn’t want the girls’ true identities to be sealed and then falsified by new birth certificates as this is what adoption does. Using my own life story as proof, I explained that I was given up to a closed adoption one month after the death of my mother from cancer. I was only three months old when my mother died. My father relinquished me to a closed adoption and kept his four older children. My adoption not only took away my family, but took away my birth certificate and gave me a completely new identity.
I did not want the same thing to happen to these girls. I did not want them to lose their true identities in order to have a home with their mother’s best friend.
I explained that legal guardianship would be a better choice, that Elizabeth Diamond’s best friend, Laura Ruffino, and her husband, Rico, could be legal guardians as opposed to adoptive parents. Guardianship, I explained, would preserve the four girls’ birth certificates, preserve Elizabeth Diamond’s place as their mother, and at the same time, give the four girls a stable home. Info was transferred to the attorney.
My friend later told me that the adoption was a necessary legal action to protect the girls. There are private, extenuating circumstances concerning the girls’ father. That is why he is not mentioned in the article.
It was determined that the girls would, indeed, maintain their own birth certificates in this adoption: their birth certificates would not be sealed and no new birth certificates would be made implying that the new adoptive parents gave birth to these four girls. For that, I am grateful. These girls lost their mother in April. They did not need to lose their identities upon adoption on top of losing their mother.
The general public needs to know that there are other alternatives to adoption. Promoting adoption, and only displaying the happy side of adoption, is very misleading. The finality of adoption, the striping away of a child’s identity, the sealing of birth certificates and the automatic issuance of a new birth certificate upon adoption are all aspects of adoption that need to be pointed out as unnecessary and harmful to all adopted people.
….SO… I place a comment on the Huffington article;
In response to
Joan Mary Wheeler said… I volunteered to help in the only way I knew: to give advice against the adoption. Why? Because I didn’t want the girls’ true identities to be sealed and then falsified by new birth certificates as this is what adoption does. Using my own life story as proof,
Well…that’s interesting! ‘volunteered’ is another way of saying ‘interfered with parental rights’. Joan did the same to me, in 1981, I told her it’s none of her business, forbade her contact with my minor children, she punished me by calling 2 false child-abuse reports.
Using HER life story also violates the privacies of both her birth and adoptive families; she has no problem ‘telling all’ and making it up as she goes! Her life isn’t anything special!
Some else said I’m frustrated when adopters tell all the details of children’s stories to others, and Needing money is not a excuse
Well Joan is not an adopter but she tells the details of everyone in the birth and adoptive families as well as misrepresenting things, for dramatic effects! and she does it for fame and fortune! ….
Then I see that D. N. says…
right on Jenny, fathers are to busy being portrayed as rapists, thieves, pedophiles, & gays. Turn on your TV and find a commerical with a man in it. It’s a woman and her daughter. I guess the man is in the garage with his son showing him some porn, drinking beer, and polishing up the 9 mm. Joan how come you appear to be so close to the situation? You the family lawyer or the husbands mistress?
and Gert says…
D. N. she can’t stay out of other people’s business! She believes adoption is an evil, and she’ll get into the face of anyone who adopts for any reason. Like I said, she interferred in my parental decision to adopt. That family needs to be aware of her ‘interest’…it is totally self-servicing.
Then D.N. said
I adopted, and 3 years ago, my wife was killed. The single parent thing is tuff plus I got my 90 year old mom I care for. No social life here. Good for you for adopting.
And Gert said
D.N. sorry for your loss, in 1981 my second husband and I wanted to adopted my children they were 15 and 16, daughter didn’t want it, fine, son did. Their father was and wasn’t there, he had another family. Joan decided that my adopting my own son was wrong and her interfereance was too much etc etc and I CUT HER OUT of my life but she will not go away, she HAS written 2 books .get away from her
And then Ruth said
Joan Mary Wheeler despite painting herself as a herioine, and a protector of privacy, DISCLOSED the reason why the bio-father is not involved. and she did it a few comments below (on her facebook) after saying that she wouldn’t because of privacy.
….. Like I said Joan just can not keep her nose out of other people’s business. She doesn’t want what happened to her to happen to another…that’s no excuse for her to mess with people’s PARENTAL RIGHTS and mess with other people’s CHILDREN. Joan has a victim mentality and thinks she must save everyone. She is always looking for some ‘high profile’ story, such as this one, to sink her teeth in…like the mad dog she is!
Some day someone will really give her what she deserves!
UPDATE I have another blog and a new Facebook page in which I am discussing the new revised e-book that she published…
both are called…duped by adoption, a book study, an in-depth analyzes of the book Forbidden Family My Life as an Adoptee Duped by Adoption and the author’s first book Forbidden Family
UPDATE NOVEMBER 2016; as older posts are being seen I, Gert, am updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler (Doris Michol Sippel) says about me and family. The first book ‘Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism‘ published in 2009, was pulled from publication by the publisher in May 2011 due to libelous material in it. Then in 2015, she ‘self-published’ a ‘revised’ version calling it ‘Forbidden Family, an adoptee duped by adoption’, being her own editor and owner. This woman has no shame no sense of family honor! Then in 2016 Joan changed her name back to her birth name and reedited and republished the SAME crap in another book; a Third edition! CALLED ‘Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity’! Talk about conning people!
this blog’s title/sub title is… DUPED BY ADOPTION & AN WOMAN’S STRUGGLE FOR IDENTITY, A BOOK STUDY an in-depth analyzes of the books called Forbidden Family; My Life as an Adoptee Duped by adoption & An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity by Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.