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Don’t take that bone, of contention, away from mad-dog Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel! (3 of 6)

by on March 4, 2017

When Joan/Doris sets her sights on a pro-adoption person she just can’t let them and it alone! I’ve written about several comments left by Joan on this site…

http://ouradopt.com/adoption-blog/jan-2009/lisas/ready-set-sign

Unfortunately is that site is no longer available.

Here are the links to others of this series of six

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2017/02/01/browbeating-and-insults-abound-as-joan-m-wheelerdoris-m-sippel-is-unable-to-control-herself-1-of-6/

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2017/02/23/dangerous-combination-for-adoptees-when-joan-m-wheelerdoris-m-sippel-believes-her-own-bs-as-she-slanderslibels-others-2-of-6/

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2017/04/02/joan-m-wheelerdoris-m-sippel-tells-us-why-she-became-hateful-about-adoption-4-of-6/

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2017/05/27/devastating-effects-thats-what-joanmwheelerdorismsippel-tells-john-in-todays-adoption-lesson-5-of-6/

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2017/06/09/caring-for-the-elderly-another-topic-by-expert-joan-m-wheelerdoris-m-sippel-on-adoption-6-of-6/

SEE END OF THIS POST FOR UPDATED INFORMATION

So well, here is another of her rampages, under her name half-orphan. (all spellings within her comments are hers) My comments will begin with Gert says.

my rights to my birth record are my civil rights

Submitted by half-orphan on Mon, 01/05/2009 – 13:33.

Hi Anneadoptee, Hi also to Marjorie,

One would think that it would be easier to request and receive our sealed records after even one week or one day being reunited, but for some reason, our lives are treated by The Gate Keepers as if we are poison.

Gert says… First here’s a definition of gatekeeper;

A gatekeeper is a human who controls access to something, for example via a city gate. In the late 20th century the term came into metaphorical use, referring to individuals who decide whether a given message will be distributed by a mass medium.

So obviously she believes that adoptees are victims of society’s ‘ignorance’ of the adoptees’ plight. Nice touch there, saying that adoptees are ‘poison’. Yep, Joan is great with adjectives!

half-orphan says..

In 1985, 9 years after reunion, I petitioned Surrogate’s Court of Erie County, New York, for my adoption papers. The guy with the control, opened up the records, partially. At that point, he said, and he wasn’t a judge, I was “entitled” only to the Final Order of Adoption. I, being the grateful little adoptee, sat there as this jerk read all of the other papers…glancing through, he spotted my adoptive father’s name and said, “good man, he must be proud to have you as his adopted daughter.” yeah, I felt like sying, “Yeah, he WAS, he’s only been dead now for 3 years,” but I didn’t say anything. As if, my adoptive father’s pride meant anything at all. It didn’t. I was there as an adult of 29 years. The transaction had nothing to do with a minor child asking permission from any parent, NO, I was there acting on my own behalf!

Gert says…

Yes, her mocking ways are a bit difficult to grasp, you have to read it more than once to finally get through all her sarcasm! She hates anyone ‘in or with control’ because that means that she is ‘their’ victim! So…’the guy with the control’…’who wasn’t a judge’…told her she’s ‘entitled’ ONLY to…

Joan has no conception that the ‘worker-bees’ are just DOING their jobs according to the rules governing their job/position.

In that libelous book, she tells about how she ‘tracked’ down the parish priest who signed the ‘false’ baptismal certificate BUT he was in a nursing home dying so she left him to ‘meet his maker’! Kid you NOT! Just like the guy she mentions here, he and the priest, are just worker-bees and YET they are subjected to Joan’s berating, insulting and condemnations!

This phrase, ‘the grateful little adoptee’, is a form of torture in Joan’s mind as well as in other adoptees. Well the GREATESS gift anyone can give to themselves is to say THANK YOU. But, to certain types of personalities, like Joan, they are NOT thankful of HAVING a life! They hate their life and therefore will never be happy.

Note how she dismissed the adoptive father’s role in HER life! The man was lucky to have died early, at least he was spared the wrath of Joan’s hate into his nineties as the adoptive mother endured!

half-orphan says..

Look you people! The way Americans view adoptees is pathetic! We are not trash, nor are we possessions, nor are we splitting loyalties if we seek our birth and adoption records. We are humans and deserve to be treated with respect due US. We are not slaves, indentured servants, nor are we members of one family only. Adoptees have two sets of real parents. That means, respect given to our ancestors, including our parents who gave us life, and respect given to our adoptive parents. BUT, when do these two sets of parents give US respect? We are told by “protectors” of the rights of “unwed mothers” that we must respect their privacy, but no one says that our parents must respect us.

Gert says…

The great and wonderful Joan has commanded the ‘people’s attention’! She WANTS respect, but doesn’t give anyone else RESPECT. Why does she think adoptees are slaves and indentured servants? Of course there are bad people doing bad things to other people, happens all the time, but to equate adoption with these qualifications LIMITS good things about adoption and puts it into the garbage dump. To Joan and those like her, adoption is an evil! They see the rest of the world through that lens! Joan wants what she denies others!

half-orphan says..

There is Mother’s Day, Father’s Day, but no Children’s Respect Day, or, better yet, how about Adoptees’ Respect Day?

Gert says…

How about lobbying Hallmark Cards or the United States Congress? Only they can make that happen.

half-orphan says..

Indigenous peoples the world over have deep respect for ancestors, for they are the ones who propegated the planet. Who we are today is a direct result of biological inheritance: what we look like and our unique body chemistry is inherited. That tie is sacred. For those of you who think that natural parents need protection from the very offspring they created and released into the world, think again! And be grateful for the parents YOU have, because, if you (john) had to face any or all of the injustices we adoptees have to face, you’d crumble from the stress and strain, the psychological torture, and the physical trap. Look into the mirror and be glad (John and all who want to defend “hiding” “birthmothers” that you can look into the mirror and know from where you get your eyes, your nose, and that immune system that has just given you an autoimmune disease requireing extensive medical care.

Gert says…

While I agree that there are some ‘good’ arguments for open records and release of medical information the way Joan goes about ‘informing’ people actually puts them OFF. And when she singles someone out, in this case ‘John’, she is making her statement PERSONAL; that is ALWAYS a receipt for not being heard! Never make it, your social cause, personal! Joan has no training in people skills or sensitivity of other’s feelings. Here it is obvious that Joan is attacking John because he is defending the other, which Joan hates! Joan and her opinions are what matters, only! Also note how in her anger she misspells and forgets capitalizations.

half-orphan says..

Us poor slobs known as adoptees (even after reunion because our bllod kin is afraid to give us informationon their medical issues due to HIPPA laws)have to tell doctors that “I’m adopted” and therefore, cannot possibly give you extensive, multi-level and cross-level charts of who-has-what. No, our parents, all of them, owe US respect and courtesy and honor.

Gert says…

Gee!! She can’t even have nice words to say about herself and fellow adoptees! Joan got her medical information FROM the birth family, yet she STILL denies what it says. Why? Because she has a story-line and the TRUTH, of the medical information, does not fit her story line! Again, she wants respect, courtesy and honor from the birth family! The very things she DENIES the birth family and others who adopt or who are pro-adoption! Two-faced, forked tongue idiot!

half-orphan says..

We have to go through life battling the whims and opinions of others, who think they have the right to open there mouths and spill out, “I think that adoptees should…” or, “Well, my friend adopted a girl from China and…” Who the f… cares? NO one gives plumbers or carpenters or auto mechanics their opinions right from the start of every conversation on how to do their jobs! Why does the general public think we give a damn about their opinions on our state of life? Do these opinions do anything at all? NO.

Gert says…

Why does she ‘battle’ so? Because that’s all she knows how to do! She has never learned that the whims and opinions of others do NOT define one’s self! She has no inner peace because she is full of hate. She can NOT accept the life that she has! And, as she continues spitting her hate out, she continues to spin out and out of control! HER opinions do nothing at all? Her opinions DO NOT change others’ opinions. And that is what and why she continues to do BATTLE. She NEEDS to stop browbeating people because she doesn’t agree with their opinions! She NEEDS to stop TELLING pro-adoption people WHAT THEY SHOULD BE THINKING AND DOING.

half-orphan says..

The only ones to actually do anything about prejudice against adoptees are other adoptees (and natural parents) who understand the deeper levels of prejudice. There are many ignorant adoptees who claim that the only parents they have are the ones who raised them, well, for these opinion-makers, I feel so much insulted by them. They try to inflict their denial onto me, and other adoptees.

Gert says…

Joan is mixing several ‘themes’ here together, no wonder people can’t understand her. She is allowing her inner tormentS out in a mixed bag of confusion. She is ‘insulted’ by other adoptees who obviously DON’T believe as she does! Poor thing! She hates this ‘other type of adoptee’ perhaps more for INFLICTING their denial onto her! What a fucked up mess Joan is! Joan believes that adoptees that accept their ‘condition’ of adoption and their adoptive parents as being IGNORANT.

half-orphan says..

Every adoptee has two sets of real parents! Everyone on the planet needs to accept that fact of life for adoptees. Accept that, and then we can proceed to the next step: give adoptees back our civil rights to the documents of our births and adoption. The general public need not have access to these records, but we, the victims of closed, sealed adoption, do need access to our own records.

Gert says…

Here we hear Joan’s authoritative pronouncement; everyone on the planet MUST accept what Joan says and THEN we can proceed to the next step! Holy Shit! Shaking in my boots.

half-orphan says..

Thanks for Reading this, and yes, in time, I’ll check into other’s websites and blogs…got a lot of reading to do!

Gert says…

How does she know that anyone reads her ranting? The only things she reads is about adoption and she wants the entire planet to read the same as she does.

half-orphan says..

John, open your mind to the experiences of adoptees who know more of life as adoptees than you do, or that your adopted children know at this point. Don’t shove your beliefs and opinions at us adoptees. Mind your own business, stay out of mine. I’m fighting for my rights to my records — you keep your mits off of my rights! Deal? Deal. I’m not butting in to your role as an adoptive father because I have two young adult children of my own. I’m not butting into the lives of natural parents, either. My rights to my records are no one’s business but my own. And yes, that means names of natural parents on birth certifcates, big deal. That is a government regulation— to register the birth of every citizen. Who ever gets named as parents on a birth record are true facts of reality that cannot be changed. Deal with it!

Gert says…

Demands made to ‘John’ or anyone… to open your mind to the experiences will just fall on deaf ears! What a fool! What she demands here is just what she REFUSES others! She shoves her beliefs and opinions on others, she doesn’t mind her own business and she sure as hell doesn’t keep her mits off others rights! She VIOLATED my parental rights and those of my minor children! Self-righteousness ran amoke!

half-orphan says..

You have your birth certificate and no one is telling you that you can’t have your birth certificate! But, rest assured, as the adoptive father of 5 boys, your name is on 5 fake birth certifcates! GREAAT! That’s 5 times fraud, dishonesty, intentional lying, theft of identity of your adopted boys who have squashed legal rights to their true birth certifcates. Shame on you and shame on the government that allows this fraud to continue!

Gert says…

Joan loves to shame people! Must have happened to her a lot in her childhood!

half-orphan says..

Adoptive parents: beware! You do not have the ethical right to put your names on a fake birth certificate. That’s a sin against nature, and your adoptive daughters and sons. The lies you hang onto will come back and bit you when your adoptees realize how they’ve been duped, duped like in a Bernie Madoff Ponzi Scheme: Made off with adopttees’ identity.

Gert says…

Warning! Warning! Danger! Danger! Joan Wheeler/Doris Sippel is after you!

She has no concept of her own sins and how they ARE biting her as she wrote this and since she wrote that libelous book! She hasn’t learnt a thing. Whats a ‘ponzi scheme’ have to do with adoption and birth certificates?

update information

I’m updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler (Doris Michol Sippel) says about me and family. The first book Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism‘ was published in 2009 but then was pulled from publication by the publisher in May 2011, for libelous material within the book. Then in 2015, she ‘self-published’ a ‘revised’ version calling it ‘Forbidden Family, an adoptee duped by adoption’. This woman has no shame no sense of family honor! Then in 2016 Joan changed her name back to her birth name and rewrote and republished the SAME crap in another book; a Third edition! CALLED ‘Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity’! Talk about conning people!

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/   this blog is titled Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

this blog’s title/sub title is… DUPED BY ADOPTION & AN WOMAN’S STRUGGLE FOR IDENTITY, A BOOK STUDY an in-depth analyzes of the books called Forbidden Family; My Life as an Adoptee Duped by adoption & An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity by Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.

also see this Facebook page…

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoptionStruggleforIdentity1/

do check us out 

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