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Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel has come out of her depressive state & gone right into her manic state! She is really foaming at the mouth!

by on May 4, 2017

She is a stalker, harasser, bully, browbeater and an all-round sicko nut case! She does NOT understand that her tactics actually are HATE speech. She does NOT engage the other in a common ground learning setting where each opposite view point COULD learn from the other. No, what she does is a form of hate speech. Her view is the ONLY ONE acceptable to her.

In this sharing of (J/D) Joan/Doris’s blog post I am taking OUT identification references; there’s no reason for these actions of J/D. She goes OUT of her way to find PRO-ADOPTION people just to BEAT them up! Unfortunately, I know that some have the ways and means to find the original; I just can’t fix or prevent that! People, use your common sense and decency! WHY, why do you ALLOW Joan/Doris to speak to people in the way she does? If you do, you obviously feel/believe as she does. That does NOT make you right, it makes you part of the problem!

I truly am appalled at the way J/D and those like her, that are so EVIL to other people that she/they DON’T EVEN KNOW that they are part of a HATE GROUP. She and her kind have NO LIFE of their own and think nothing of HURTING others, just because they HURT. Well, two can play that game. That is WHY I have BLOGS…to expose what J/D does.

Most of Joan/Doris’ ranting and ravings are just MORE of the same old lies, misrepresentations and distortions of truths and facts that she has been screaming for 40 years….it’s HER story, she KNOWS nothing else! She is wrong! She is SICK! She is garbage! And the sooner people, in the adoption community, SEE THIS…the better.

Joan/Doris has attempted to write her story in BOOK form…THREE times! Each is full of lies, each is garbage, and each are FAILURES, non-starters and are NOT selling. The mainstream adoption reform movement DOESN’T promote her. She writes for FRINGE publications! So when she COMES out of her depressions, she LOOKS FOR pro-adoption sites and goes after them, in her usual MANIC fashion. Again, this why I have BLOGS…to tell the truth.

In the following, I will quote from Joan/Doris’s (J/D) words and then have my own comments marked as Gert replies.

YES this is a long post but that’s NOT my fault. J/D does love to rant on and on and on. So here she is using her legitimatebastard name on her Forbidden Family web site.

My Response to J and J A…. to Adopt in …..T… ON   April 30, 2017 BY legitimatebastard

(J/D) I saw your ad on April  posted in …. the title “….Hoping to Adopt.” So good of you to include your telephone number, your email address, your website and your Facebook page. This is advertising to take another woman’s baby from her. Other words used to describe advertising to adopt are: trolling for children, child trafficking, kidnapping. You are instructed to use coercive language to convince a pregnant teen or young woman that she is not able to parent her own child.

Gert replies… J/D uses sarcasm, mockery, intimidation, browbeating tactics to PURPOSELY HURT THE OTHER! J/D PUTS her interpretations into someone else mindset. J/D is NOT a mind reader! She believes that adoption, of any sort, is wrong and therefor she CONDEMNS the other…how wonderful of her! She PUTS her agenda into the other’s purpose…wrongfully! J/D does NOT have a crystal ball to determine what the other thinks, believes or feels. But J/D will LABEL the other as she feels…that’s slander/libel/hate speech.

(J/D) Even though you say you know adoptees and see how they have bonded with their adoptive families, I thought you might want to hear from an adoptee to tell you the other side of adoption, the side you do not want to see.

Gert replies…NO one asked for J/D’s opinions, she just GIVES it, because she is an all-knowing expert and only she knows what people need to know about adoption. She FORGETS that people have freedom to make their own decisions in life.

(J/D) The both of you may or may not be aware that there is such a thing as the adoption reform movement. We consist of mothers-of-adoption-loss and adoptees, lawyers, doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, social workers, clergy and many of us are authors who have been rising up against the established adoption practices of modern America since our movement began in 1953.

Gert replies…Is this a PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT? If so that should have been ENOUGH, but NO.

(J/D) But you don’t care, you just want a baby. Any baby will do. And while you are coveting someone else’s baby, these are the words of a friend of mine who posted a link to the following article just last night on Facebook: “So you think this is far-fetched? Does this not describe the adoption and surrogacy industry? To a ‘T’.” She is referring to this article: We Live in the Reproductive Dystopia of “The Handmaid’s Tale”  http://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/we-live-in-the-reproductive-dystopia-of-the-handmaids-tale

Gert replies…she’s off and running, full speed ahead of her brain! NOW she’s into the adoptee party line of BROWBEATING as she goes along, streaming several thoughts together. Hard hitting! Hard to follow!

(J/D) I suggest you read this article as the both of you have a lot to learn. But I doubt if you will take the time necessary to attempt to comprehend the magnitude of what you want to do to destroy a family so that you could have that baby of your dreams.

Gert replies…Oh yes, she ‘suggests’ NO she DEMANDS! She’s the great educator, while she berates and insults. NO ONE learns when addressed this way! She has ALREADY condemned them because J/D is totally anti-adoption. No adoption is allowed to happen, so why can’t she just say that and be gone? No J/D MUST beat them up. J/D did the same to me, her own sister, when I adopted, with second husband, my own child, age 16 (no baby) and then she continued on VIOLATING my parental rights. That was in 1981, after that she was NO LONGER a part neither of my family nor in my life. She is the one who destroyed every relationship in her BIRTH FAMILY after we FOUND her, with her DEMANDS.

(J/D) Me, I am a 61 year old adopted woman. I was raised as an only child by a father and a mother who did not want me to ever know the truth. They willfully kept me away from my full blood siblings. Yes, they knew the whole truth, but they wanted a child all to themselves. They got what they wanted. I was the innocent child who knew nothing. I loved my parents with every fiber of my being.

Gert replies…she does love to tell you how OLD she is and how long she’s been at bullying people! If she doesn’t watch out, she’ll be on her DEATH bed and wonder WHY she did NOT LIVE her life! J/D does NOT want to accept the way the LAWS are about adoption, she blames the adoptive parents for keeping secrets, when it is the LAW that demands such. Change the laws, by normal legal means NOT by bullying and stalking people. J/D is lying here… ‘with every fiber of my being’…according to her ‘true books’ she hated them! She changes truths as quickly as she changes her undies!

(J/D) Until I was 18 in 1974. That’s when I was found by my full blood siblings: three sisters and a brother. We also had two step brothers, two step sisters, and a baby half-brother. (The add-ons were from our father’s subsequent marriages.) My siblings told me that I was the youngest of five children born to our mother. Our father told me that his wife, my mother, was dying while pregnant with me. Her body tried to survive so I was born early at 32 weeks gestation. My mother died three months later.

Gert replies…this is TRUE. It is also TRUE that she was beginning to SEARCH.

(J/D) A Catholic priest told my father to give the baby (me) to two parents. He did. He kept the other four children, and got married to a woman he knew in high school. I will believe what my father told me the day we met. He said that the priest told him “the baby needs two parents”. My father made the choice to give me to a married couple he chose because he was a very religious man and followed the advice of his parish priest.

Gert replies…This is FALSE! This is an example of how J/D twists the truths whenever she speaks, she can’t remember what she writes because it changes all the time. This is the reason she HATES adoption.

NO priest told our father that! Our parents KNEW she was dying right after J/D was born. My father with my mother’s approval (before she died), proposed a ‘marriage of convenience’ to a woman he knew long before he met my mother, in the Army, in Washington DC…NOT IN HIGH SCHOOL. My father met my mother on a train when he was coming home from an Army facility in 1945; they married in 46, I was born in 47. My stepmother was an unmarried woman with 2 children when my father said to her ‘we can help each other and our children’, but that woman said NO TO THE INFANT, which was J/D. There was NO OPTION of ‘guardianship’ within the family for my father said ‘if he could NOT raise her NO ONE WOULD’ and that meant he HAD TO PLACE HER INTO ADOPTION.

Dad may have told J/D, when she was first united with him, that the baby needs two parents, to save her ‘feelings’; he was NOT a mean man. It took a long time for the facts to surface and be told to J/D but she is convinced that the Catholic priest did this BECAUSE she is totally anti-Catholic, Christian or any form of religion. She has to fit her hates into her story, you know!

(J/D) I was in the middle of two families. Everyone had their own versions of what happened. To my extended adopted family, most aunts and uncles thought I was disloyal to my adoptive parents. A few of my adoptive relatives were kind and compassionate, comforting me as they could see how traumatized I was at learning the truth in the way it was presented to me. My natural blood family also did not know how to proceed with a reunion as there were no guide books back then. I was the one in the middle, caught in the crossfire. Both sides expected me to be what I was not. I have had absolutely no contact for nearly 40 years with the sisters who found me. I want it that way.  Not because I am against reunion, but because they are cruel, insanely vicious people. Today, there are only a few cousins from both families who truly love me, and I them.

Gert replies… ‘no guide books back then’ WTF… who the hell needs a guide book to learn about each other? J/D is a book idolater! Only if it’s in THE BOOK! of course she hates the fact that NO ONE in both families ever read a book on adoption! I adopted and learned all I needed to when I CHOOSE to adopt…but that was NOT good enough for her. Reunions are rough! Even in the best of families…NO ONE ever gets along perfectly…families can and are MESSY. She didn’t raise her own children perfectly!

This statement is FALSE… ‘I have had absolutely no contact for nearly 40 years with the sisters who found me’….it’s more like 36 years! When she betrayed me and violated my parental rights in 1981, I divorced her. I did NOT see her again until 1992, at a brief (12 hour) family reunion, where we shared stories, laughed and said we loved each other. After only a few HOURS together she then went directly to dad to tell him my religion was detrimental to my mental health. Dad pushed her out of his door! I wrote her a letter telling her I resume the divorce. In 1997 or so, she wrote a letter to me sending it to another sister, asking me to call her, she loved me, had something to tell me and wanted to be forgiven. I called, she screamed at me, don’t ever call me again. About that same time she wrote to my daughter asking her to STEAL MEDICAL RECORDS and don’t tell your mother (me) or her aunt (Ruth). In 2005, during a visit to see my dad I truly wanted to end the negative between us, I had my 2nd step-mom phone J/D, we talked, she told me things about her life, she said she loved me, as I did tell her. Then in 2009, when she first published the lying book, without any family member being told, she LIED saying I phoned her to ‘get information’, that at the reunion I didn’t apologize to her adoptive mother for something she perceived I did wrong in 1980, that I didn’t LOOK at her children and on and on and on.

So again…depending on whom she talking to, the story is always different. Oh yes…let’s not forget the birth family, the sisters in particular that are ‘because they are cruel, insanely vicious people’! She was putting that kind of slander out on the internet from 2006 LONG before she put it in print! But hey…isn’t it J/D who is writing this cruel, insane, vicious post AGAINST people she doesn’t KNOW? Her CONTINUED attacks upon others PROVE her very nature as cruel, insane and vicious!

(J/D) Yes, my childhood was filled with joy, because I was a child. There were times, though, that I felt different. I was alone. Deep down, I knew I was not alone. But I was not allowed to know.

Gert replies…poor baby! And this whining will change someone’s opinion on adoption?

(J/D) My innocent childhood was over the day I was contacted by my eldest sister who knew where I was for ten years before making that first phone call. I felt violated. I had no privacy. Everyone knew about me but I was the one who was not allowed to know the secret. No one cared how I felt.  They were all too busy telling me how to feel and what I should do.

Gert replies…poor poor baby! Sad, sad, sad, story of personal woe will NEVER change the opinions of those that CHOOSE to adopt.

(J/D) As a direct result of my reunion and the shock of all the lies my adoptive parents told me, and of all the hate heaped upon me, I became an activist and have been one since 1974. I have fought ever since against the laws that stole my birth certificate. I speak out against social and legal prejudice that marks adoptees as ungrateful and allows people like yourselves to troll for babies to adopt by advertising to lure a pregnant teen or young adult into your clutches.

Gert replies…She is no activist, she has NOT and will never change any laws because all she is capable of doing is stalking, harassing, bullying. If she got rid of her hate perhaps she may find some COMPASSION for herself and for others. But she can’t let go of her hate! She’s the one TROLLING for pro-adoption folks to beat up! Activism doesn’t work that way.

(J/D) J and J, you desire a baby. So what? You have each other. You are both alive. My mother DIED at age 30! My mother DIED so that I could make my adopters HAPPY. I would rather have had my dead mother back to life and my siblings and my father as a family than the life full of lies and deceit, scapegoating, and loneliness I was forced to live because of adoption.

Gert replies…projecting her hate doesn’t solve anything! Mom didn’t die to make anyone happy, what a stupid crazy remark. It ought to be mentioned that there is a strong possibility that someone in the adoptive family ABUSED J/D. If that happened, that’s sad, but is NO EXCUSE to blame it on ADOPTION. This woman has been in mental health therapy for most of her LIFE. She does NOT want to get better. She loves her pain and hate, lashing out at others gives her pleasure and feeds her self-importance.

(J/D) My mother’s name was Genevieve. They called her Gene. (I also see Genetics in her name. How appropriate.) They also called her Genny.  how does the similarity in names feel? Kinda gets ya, or at least it should, J. If she had lived, my mother (not my birthmother, my MOTHER, Genny) would be 90 years old now.

Gert replies…the word genetics has no connection to the name. J/D is attempting to make her argument towards these people PERSONAL with another form of mockery! J/D has NO RESPECT for our mother, she uses her, has hijacked her life and death, to promote her agenda of hatred against adoption.

(J/D) And, for the record, with all the fighting my adoptive mother caused between us, she always spoke of my mother as “your mother” as a sign of respect. Never once did my adoptive mother utter the words “birthmother” or “birthfather”. She always addressed my father as “your father”. To me, my adoptive father was also “my father”, just as my adoptive mother was always “my mother”.

Gert replies…The terms birthmother and birthfather are from the CURRENT adoption movement and was NOT in general practice. Here we also see where J/D acknowledges the fighting between herself and adoptive mother, who J/D loathed…she put that in print!

(J/D) How old are you, J? Can you comprehend the losses I had to live through in the first three months of my life to make it possible for me to make my adoptive parents happy? Isn’t that an incredible burden to place upon one tiny premature infant? And to carry that burden throughout my life? Just to fulfill the desires of a childless couple?

Gert replies…getting personal again! J/D’s first three months of life were NOT to make anyone happy! It is really painful to see how she VIEWS her life and the people around her. Sick

(J/D) No, I didn’t need a new home. I already had one. I needed my family, not a new, fabricated, one. I didn’t need a new name, or a new birth certificate, I already had a name and a birth certificate.

Gert replies… Shit happens! She was placed into adoption, fact of life. The rest of her birth siblings were placed in foster and orphan homes, AFTER the illness that TOOK away our FIRST step-mother. We dealt with that and other things. J/D needs to grow up! But hey she is only 61 years old, soon she’ll be dead!

(J/D) How much reading have you done on adoption psychology? Do you know who Jean Paton was? She was my friend. Do you know who Annette Baron and Ruben Pannor were? They were my friends and colleagues. Look them up. Do you know who Betty Jean Lifton was? She was also my friend and colleague.

Gert replies…J/D is just a name-dropper. She doesn’t realize that REAL people don’t have to FOLLOW or BE IN THE KNOW of any adoption people. If J/D is berating someone, like she is, why would they THEN go and ‘look them up’. She has just defeated her purpose…she TURNS PEOPLE OFF.

(J/D) Do you know who Joe Soll is? Do you know who Carol Schaefer is? Do you know who Lorraine Dusky is? Do you know who Lori Carangelo is? Why not? Do you know what Americans For Open Records is? Why Not? Do you know who Sandy Musser is? Why not? Do you know who Mirah Riben is? Why not? Look up her articles on Huffington Post. You will get a valuable education.

Gert replies…J/D asks ‘why not’! Why should anyone care to know any of these names AFTER being stalked, harassed and bullied by this total nut-case? The only person that needs an education is J/D on how to deal with PEOPLE and DIAGLOG skills, for they are non-existent! She will never get a convert this way! She’s NEVER change anyone’s mind this way!

(J/D) In fact, look up all of these names and you will see that they are authors. Some are adoptees, some are mothers of adoption loss. All of them are pioneers in adoption reform. And there are many, many others who have had the courage to speak out against the discriminatory system of adoption.

Gert replies…who gives a shit? This is a self-promoting thing for J/D, nothing more. She KNOWS people, therefore YOU had better listen to her! Interesting, she isn’t promoting her own BOOKS! We have exposed them as the garbage they are, so she’s BACK to using other authors.

(J/D) If you don’t know who these pioneers in adoption reform were, and are, then you know nothing about adoption. NOTHING.

Gert replies…See! I told you! In J/D’s mind a person who adopts and who DOESN’T know these people knows NOTHING. Nice going J/D you just LOST another several people, the ones you have insulted and the untold NUMBERS that see your post and this post of mine.

(J/D) Have you even been to an International adoption reform conference held by the American Adoption Conference? NO? How about Bastard Nation? NO?  I’ve been attending local and regional adoption support meetings for adoptees since 1975. How about you? I’ve been attending adoption reform conferences since 1976. How about you?

Gert replies…Wow!!! Such Self-importance! Everyone else is a nothing because they don’t have her experiences. I feel her pain! Makes me want to vomit

(J/D) I know thousands of adoptees, mothers-of-adoption-loss from around the world. How about you?

Gert replies… I know ONE adoptee, my son! But that doesn’t count to her, because I adopted him and that made me a BAD BAD person in her eyes. BTW my son wanted to be adopted and has never had any issues that this idiot thinks happens.

(J/D) Do you what the Baby Scoop was? Why not? Do you know what the Stolen Generation was? Why not? Do you know about the Magdalene Laundries? Why not? I know women who gave birth there, and women and men who were born there, survived, and are looking for their mothers. Do you? Have you ever read any books on adoption social work and psychology? Adoption law? Have you read any books written by mothers-of-adoption-loss? By adoptees? By fathers? By therapists? NO? Why not?

Gert replies…total self-importance, we should all get down on our knees and worship this person who KNOWS so much about adoption!

(J/D) Oh, yes, this is an important edit I am adding 24 hours after this post was published. …add this book to your reading list: The Child Catchers: Rescue, Trafficking, and the New Gospel of Adoption by Kathryn Joyce. You will really like that one! Will the adoption you choose be opened or closed? Open adoptions close all the time because once the adopters get the baby, they run. All the legal papers say the baby is theirs now, by birth, no less, so they close the adoption and leave no forwarding address. And the child’s birth certificate is changed. Do you want to start your relationship with someone else’s child you will call your own based on dishonesty, deception, and lies?  J, you will have nothing to do with siring the child. J, you will not participate in the conception, or pregnancy, or the birth. Therefore, neither one of your names belongs on a birth certificate. But, adoption will provide you that privilege of having your names on a birth certificate for a baby you did not create, but hope to adopt. Why do you want to participate in government-sanctioned lies? Does your church promote lies? Is lying a sin?  If you are both honest people, you ought to be ashamed of yourselves for contemplating placing false facts on a birth certificate of a child you did not create.

Gert replies…diarrhea of the mouth and WAY too much information at one time. She lost everyone back there in the beginning, she’s talking to thin air.

(J/D) please, turn your desire for someone else’s baby into kindness and sympathy as to what young parents are going though when faced with an unplanned pregnancy. Do they need help to keep their family together? Do you really need to pry them apart? Can you help out by being there as friends, as care givers? As legal guardians for a child while the parents figure out what they need to do to pull their lives back together? You can love a child without legally changing the child’s name and birth certificate, or without forcing a child to give up their entire family so that you can have the experience of parenting. You are pleading for a mother to give up her baby to you. And for a father to be unknown to his child. That is selfish and cruel of you.

Gert replies…no one is listening anymore!

(J/D) Stop. Are you Christian? Would Jesus want you to ask a mother to give up her baby? What kind of people are you? Are you people of faith or are you predators?

Gert replies… ah! Now we get to the religion part! Her favorite! If she can’t get them on those other points she gets them with ‘what would Jesus want’! A person like J/D who is NOT a Christian, nor any religion, has NO business lecturing and intimidating anyone with the religion/god fire-club!

(J/D) Adoptees and mothers-of-adoption-loss have no choice but to accept what was done to us. We work tirelessly, without pay, to make sure not one more mother or father loses their child to predators like you. We work tirelessly, without pay, to change the laws so that we may access the truth of our births that was taken from us. For adoptees and mothers of loss, we must Radically Accept that adoption has negatively affected us.

Gert replies… Okay so they all deserve a medal! Big deal! Working without pay is called VOLUNTEERING. If you volunteer to do something you NEED NOT tell anyone you ‘work without pay’. If you WANT PAY, get a JOB and shut up!

(J/D) Now I am asking YOU to take on what we are told by our therapists: you must meditate and go into full Radical Acceptance of your situation. You must Radically Accept that you cannot have children because of a medical condition. Grabbing up someone else’s child will not cure your medical condition. Radical Acceptance might cure you of your emotional need to take someone else’s child and pretend that child is yours. You are infertile. Adoption does not cure infertility. Neither does a false birth certificate that declares you sired and gave birth to a child you know you didn’t.

Gert replies…Doctor J/D heals thyself! She’s been in therapy for decades, she has a library of books on all the conditions that all the experts tell her she has. What she needs, to be healthy, is to DROP her HATE and learn COMPASSION FOR HERSELF and leave others alone.

(J/D) the two of you are married. You have each other. You love each other. Be grateful for what you have. Radically Accept your lot in life and face reality. Hold on to each other for the true joy that you have, and then you would not cause others multitudes of lifelong emotional pain. To covet another woman’s child and another man’s child is a sin. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife…. Think about it.

Gert replies… Spoken like a true BELIEVER of the gospel of the E VILS of Adoption! Right from the CHURCH OF ADOPTION IS EVIL. What an ass this woman is! This is another manifestation of MENTAL ILLNESS. Everyone knows that J/D has mental illnesses because she tells the world adoption did it to her.

(J/D) Change your ways. Repent your sins.

Gert replies… OMGs When did she take the cloth?

End of her hate post

Gert here… What I find most distressing in the following comments, is HOW J/D went after the first commenter Lisa Ann, venting more on someone who DOESN’T have the same viewpoint as J/D! NO POSITIVE CHANGES can happen when HATE SPEECH AND HATE TACTICS are used! Lisa Ann’s comment is the ONLY opposing view and for THAT she was attacked by J/D.

6 thoughts on “My Response”

Lisa Ann said… May 1, 2017 10:54 pm Wow, I’m sorry that this happened to you. Tell me how you would ‘fix’ the uncontrollable problem of state run foster care where 400,000 children in America are abondoned to? A system in which over 50% of the kids don’t finish high school and many will never have the acedemic prowless or financial freedom to write angry blogs. I’m adopted also. Sure, I have abondonment issues…But non adopted people have MAJOR issues as well. People in general (especially us over entitled American’s) have issues. Tell me a really really good solution to the 400,000 children and I might give your tirant more respect.

Legitimatebastard said… May 2, 2017 Spell much? Seems like you don’t’ have the “acedemic prowless” to write intelligently. You are attempting to invalidate my post by using diminishing language, bringing in topics that have nothing to do with the content of the post: “But non adopted people have MAJOR issues as well. People in general (especially us over entitled American’s) have issues.” De-railing the points I made. Nice tactics.

So, you are adopted. You don’t say! How much do you know about adoption? Or are you here to show your ignorance, just as you did attacking me on a closed group’s post? Abandonment issues are one thing, but my post is not about that. At all. “tirant”? Did you mean “tirade”? You are mad at me for being mad at you? You attacked me and I am not supposed to be angry? Flatter yourself that I allowed your comment to be posted.

So it seems you want to defend foster care. I do not have all the answers to fix foster care because my expertise is adoption. Adopting out of foster care is like adopting a child off the streets in a 3rd world country – you can “save” (if that is your goal) one child but you don’t fix the poverty or the politics. When kids are abandoned to foster care due to drug addicted parents or immature parents who land themselves in jail, these kids still miss their parents. And adopting them out of foster care still leaves drug addicted parents and criminality.

When I worked in a homeless shelter, I took a mother to court to get something from her husband in jail. They had 4 children. Those kids visited their father with their mother and wanted him to come back home. The mother was afraid of losing her kids to the system because she was poor. And the system could have taken her children away from her because she could not afford an apartment after her husband committed a crime and was in jail.

But, there are people out there who believe that those kids would benefit from being taken away from these miserable parents and given new parents. Wrong. You don’t solve a series of problems by creating new ones. Just like adoption, foster care is a broken system. Fixing a broken system takes dedication, hard work, persistence. Political action. Lobbying. Sending vans of people to state legislature office buildings to meet with law makers. I have done this with groups on poverty issues, food banks, student loans, as well as adoption issues such as open records.

Re-read my post. Separating families is never a good idea. For the children who have been abandoned into foster care and for people who want to help these children, as I have said in my post, you can love a child without changing a child’s name and birth certificate. You can provide a home for a child who needs a home without causing that child to lose any contact and legal standing within her family by being a legal guardian. Adoption is completely unnecessary. Family preservation is the first goal. Kinship care is next. After that, legal guardianship. These three solutions preserve the child’s family (meaning that family relationships remain intact), and the child’s name and birth certificate and identity are also preserved.

The following are links to pages on my website and other websites, that you might find helpful in your questions. There are many other resources, but it is now 1:20 am. I have to be up work in the morning.

https://forbiddenfamily.com/family-preservation-adoption-prevention/

http://familypreservation.blogspot.com/p/what-is-family-preservation.html

CHOSEN CHILDREN 2016: People as Commodities in America’s Failed Multi-Billion Dollar Foster Care, Adoption and Prison Industries Kindle Edition by Lori Carangelo (Author)

MC (@Noomaconsulting) said May 1, 2017  THIS RIGHT HERE IS GOLD! thank you so much for writing this.

Legitimatebastard said  May 1, 2017  This brought a smile to me! And you are welcome! I just hope this reaches the people it is intended to reach. Adoptive-parent wanna-bees need a dose of reality. They tend to live in a sense of Entitlement

everyoneactdead said May 1, 2017 I applaud your powerful way with words and your many years of activism. Infant adoption should not be allowed to continue

Legitimatebastard said May 1, 2017 Thank you. It is nice to be validated after all these years of being trashed-talked and put-down for being who I am. Yes, infant adoption fresh out of the womb should be abolished. Older child adoption should be abolished as well.

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and here’s another view of this

https://ruthsippelpace.wordpress.com/2017/05/07/doris-michol-sippel-fka-joan-mary-wheeler-was-recently-in-a-depressed-state-for-some-time-as-per-own-admission-and-wham-came-out-of-it-into-a-full-blown-manic-episode-and-foaming-at-the-mouth-over/

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